Should she stay, or should she go now?

[oscarose]

Technically she shouldn't be here doing A levels. Do we make that an example and let every man and his dog come and do their A levels before we send them home? There is an argument here for take action quickly and decisively to deter anyone else that fancies a free education as well. If this had been dealt with quickly at the time the family wouldn't be in this situation.

I am sure every one that gets sent back will be upset and frightened as well, it must be a very harrowing process... but you want to come to the UK for a free life on a whim it's gonna come back and bite you I am afraid.

You have to take the compassion out of a process like this when it's so clear cut. Get's in the way of doing what has to be done I am afraid.

I think this is more 'shades of grey' as opposed to totally 'black and white'. Consider all perspectives - a narrow mind is very limiting.

[fullyautomatix]

Would Mitch?

[northernladuk]

I think this is more 'shades of grey' as opposed to totally 'black and white'. Consider all perspectives - a narrow mind is very limiting.

Rules is rules. Doesn't get any more black and white than that. The law doesn't do shades of grey and if people start bending them when it suits them all hell will break loose.

[TheFaQQer]

So - did she go then?

[Mich the Tester]

Rules is rules. Doesn't get any more black and white than that. The law doesn't do shades of grey and if people start bending them when it suits them all hell will break loose.

The law is open to interpretation, at least it is in a case law system like English law. That's the clever thing about English law; aside from statutes written in black and wite, the interpretation evolves and allows room for a court to consider the infinite shades of grey.

[vetran]

The law is open to interpretation, at least it is in a case law system like English law. That's the clever thing about English law; aside from statutes written in black and wite, the interpretation evolves and allows room for a court to consider the infinite shades of grey.

setting a social or legal precedent that goes toward hell in a handcart!

It is Black or White. You can moderate the punishment but you can't ignore the offence or the minimum punishment.

You could delay deportation of the adult to a safe country because other members of her family are still in the system. You could give her the dignity of getting on the plane on her own etc.

But she still needs to go.

[Old Greg]

Why? Put the message out that anyone can come over here with next to no reason to claim asylum, get in to a school and then stay? That's not going to help anyone.

Would that tell you that anyone could do that, or that sometimes an exception is made on compassionate grounds?

[Old Greg]

setting a social or legal precedent that goes toward hell in a handcart!

It is Black or White. You can moderate the punishment but you can't ignore the offence or the minimum punishment.

You could delay deportation of the adult to a safe country because other members of her family are still in the system. You could give her the dignity of getting on the plane on her own etc.

But she still needs to go.

How would this set a legal precedent?

[Old Greg]

I think this is more 'shades of grey' as opposed to totally 'black and white'. Consider all perspectives - a narrow mind is very limiting.

He is rather limited.

[Mich the Tester]

How would this set a legal precedent?

It might set a dangerous legal precedent that the home office should give due consideration to young people with no known criminal record who are studying for some officially recognised qualification so that they might be allowed to remain long enough to finish their studies! Oh the horror!