Hang on, they want to make it LONGER?

[d000hg]

BBC News - Lewis Gill: Attorney general may review Bournemouth death punch sentence

I saw this in passing and initially thought "that's good, they've realised a 4 year prison sentence is too bad for punching someone in the face". Then I read it and found everyone's outraged it's such a short sentence?!

Shouldn't you be tried on the basis of your actions, not random factors outside your control? If the guy fell differently and just had a black eye, the offender would have done exactly the same thing.

Isn't this like throwing a rock off a bridge without looking - whether it hits someone is down to chance and you're equally to blame in either case?



Should be a fun discussion

[oracleslave]

Just because he was unlucky in his choice of victim, I think this or a form of it still applies.

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So, you bear the consequences of your actions irrespective of the condition of the victim. It's still involuntary manslaughter at the end of the day regardless of the weak genetic make-up or exaggerated misfortune of the victim.

[doodab]

I must admit I thought 4 years seemed a bit harsh for a punch at first, but then he did kill someone, even if unintentionally.

I suppose it's kind of like drink driving. What would you get if you mowed someone down while pissed?

[Bellona]

Involuntary manslaughter arises where the accused did not intend to cause death or serious injury

Unlawful act manslaughter arises when he or she intends an unlawful act that is likely to do harm to the person, and death results which was neither foreseen nor intended

There is no mandatory sentence for either.

The guidelines suggest 0-4 years imprisonment for Involuntary manslaughter, but actual sentence depends on circumstance, and previous character of the defendant.

Since there can be do doubt that he didn't “ accidentally” punch the poor bloke, I personally think he should have got more than 4 years, but I don’t think it warrants the cost of a return to court – with parole he may still end up getting out in the same amount of time.

[BrilloPad]

How would you feel if it was a member of your family that had died?

[d000hg]

How would you feel if it was a member of your family that had died?

My emotions shouldn't come into it.

[eek]

I must admit I thought 4 years seemed a bit harsh for a punch at first, but then he did kill someone, even if unintentionally.

I suppose it's kind of like drink driving. What would you get if you mowed someone down while pissed?

14 years, starting point is anything between 18months to 8 years depending on how careless and drunk you are...

[BrilloPad]

BBC News - Lee Rigby murder: Adebolajo and Adebowale face sentence

I hope the judge is lenient - it was only 1 stab wound after all.

[suityou01]

BBC News - Lee Rigby murder: Adebolajo and Adebowale face sentence

I hope the judge is lenient - it was only 1 stab wound after all.

And a decapitation. Don't forget that.

[vetran]

you watched the video ? it was completely unprovoked and intended to cause serious harm, animals like that should be locked away for a very long time.

If he hadn't of killed him though he would probably have got off with a caution.

Gill was also sentenced to two three-month terms to run consecutively with the manslaughter sentence.

This was for committing the crime while on a suspended sentence for the robbery and handling offences. In mitigation, Steven Perian said: ‘He wishes he could turn back the clock and not react in the way he did.’

Mr Young, a former grammar school pupil, regular church-goer and speaker of several languages, was said to have the social skills of a 14-year-old due to his Asperger’s.