Support for Scottish independence rises after London warns on pound

[doodab]

Isn't that hypocritical ?

Not in the land of cake and eating it, apparently.

[Ticktock]

So wait a minute. First Mr Salmond was told by Eton & co a referendum based on birthplace would be illegal. So it was adapted to residents. Now I'm told I could be ejected from the UK citizenship because of my identity for something I did not vote for?

Hypocrites & fascists.

That's funny. I just looked it up:

In January 2012, Elaine Murray MSP of Labour led a debate arguing that the franchise should be extended to Scots living outside Scotland, including the approximately 800,000 Scots living in the other parts of the UK. This was opposed by the Scottish Government, which argued that it would greatly increase the complexity of the referendum and stated that there was evidence from the United Nations Human Rights Committee that other nations "might question the legitimacy of a referendum if the franchise is not territorial".

So a Labour MSP proposed including voters based on birthplace and the SNP government said no.

Why do you seem to continually spout such crap?

[scooterscot]

So how will it be done? Do you need to have lived there for the past 5 years or something? .

I'm not quibbling over residents who've only been there month having the right to vote. My only point is the country was forced into this position.

Why not? If Scotland becomes a separate country why should it's citizens automatically get UK passports? If the countries are separate then this would make as much sense (at least to me) as Scotland passing the Yes vote and demanding French passports in addition to the Scottish ones.

I'm beginning to understand what it might have felt like to be Jewish in 1930's Germany.

I cannot see it happening either. However, if Scotland becomes a separate country with separate citizenship then wouldn't those citizens have to go through the various diplomatic channels to determine residency? Surely they cannot just piggy back off the UK arrangements, they have voluntarily left the UK?

(Not trolling you, I am honestly not sure how this works but it does not seem to make sense to me that it works in the way you are describing unless the UK offer some kind of halfway stage concession).

I agree. The really sad part of it all this is Germany is offering more resolution to expats in this position than their home country is. My local rathaus has offered to provide me assistance.

[scooterscot]

I think the Scots would need to negotiate their own open borders arrangement with the rest of the EU / Schengen visa area, not unlike the Swiss have done.

Would would England do if indeed Scotland, hypothetically speaking, joined the EU & agreed to Schengen visa area? Passport control on the Scottish / English border?

[MicrosoftBob]

I'm beginning to understand what it might have felt like to be Jewish in 1930's Germany.

You mean as in you get given your own country by the British, and then constantly whinge and begin terrorist activities until you get independence there ?

Nah that didn't happen for another 20 odd years

[scooterscot]

I'm sure the EU would have more say over it than the UK government, so it probably depends on how grumpy Spain will be over it

I agree.

Also there is no guarantee Scotland would join the EU if the offer was made available.

[doodab]

Would would England do if indeed Scotland, hypothetically speaking, joined the EU & agreed to Schengen visa area? Passport control on the Scottish / English border?

Presumably yes, just like we have at Calais and the airports.

[MicrosoftBob]

Presumably yes, just like we have at Calais and the airports.

So security will be soo tight that anyone who can jump on the back of a lorry can get in

[MyUserName]

I'm beginning to understand what it might have felt like to be Jewish in 1930's Germany.

That is quite emotive but does not really answer my question.

I agree. The really sad part of it all this is Germany is offering more resolution to expats in this position than their home country is. My local rathaus has offered to provide me assistance.

You home country as in the UK or Scotland?

[scooterscot]

Hang on I thought you wanted to be independent. why would you want UK citizenship if you don't want to be a part of the UK

Isn't that hypocritical ?

No, I'm natural on the matter. Just because I have 'scot' in my username people assume the stereohype.

Regardless too much importance is played on citizenship. When people ask me where I'm from I say Scotland. I don't need a piece of paper to authenticate my place in world.