Well Done Denmark

[Mich the Tester]

Still on the fence?

Yes, in fact what you've told me confirms that; not all 'halal' meat meets the requirements of halal, just as not all non-halal or non-kosher meat meets the legal requirements we have. That is the problem; meat being produced by those who don't keep to the laws that have been made to ensure humane raising and slaughtering.

[Mich the Tester]

In both cases the welfare of the animal is regarded as a vital part of the process and failure to provides for this would make the meat impure. You could make the argument that a Kosher or Halal slaughter man is more likely to care about this as a fundamental religious belief than another without that belief. This does of course ignore human nature and the lack of scruples in some people where money is concerned, but that applies equally in a non-religous environment.

WHS

[DaveB]

Yes, in fact what you've told me confirms that; not all 'halal' meat meets the requirements of halal, just as not all non-halal or non-kosher meat meets the legal requirements we have. That is the problem; meat being produced by those who don't keep to the laws that have been made to ensure humane raising and slaughtering.

WHS.

Ultimately, if you eat meat and care about animal welfare, you should be making the effort to find out where it comes from, how it was produced and what happened to it in between. Most people don't care, or can't afford to care. There is a reason supermarket meat is relatively cheap.

Personally I am lucky to be in the position where I can afford to buy meat from a local butcher, who knows where his meat comes from (literally "That field over there" on one occasion when I asked) and can tell me exactly what happened to it between field, slaughter and sale. Yes it's more expensive, so I buy less of it. I don't care whether it's Halal or not, what I care about is the quality and provenance.

Getting your knickers in twist about Halal or Kosher or anything else and then buying cheap intensively raised, factory procecessed supermarket chicken is missing the point. Properly raised, slaughtered and handled Halal meat is just as good if not better than any other commercially produced meat that has been properly raised, slaughtered and handled, and really no different to what you buy in the supermarket anyway. Barring the religious recitation at the point of slaughter the process is identicle.

You are just as likely to buy meat that has been produced under poor conditions from a supermarket or butcher that is not Halal as you are from one that is.

But as I said, the Daily Mail would love you to think otherwise.

[EternalOptimist]

true story - my brothers a vicar, and yesterday as part of his sermon he included this joke.
'Teaching the children in sunday school the difference between right and wrong, I asked them what it would be if someone put his hand in another mans pocket and took all his money'
'That would be his wife' replied little johnny.

So its been done many times and I dont see how Denmark are being particularly brave.

[d000hg]

I really fancy pork chow mein now.

[EternalOptimist]

true story - my brothers a vicar, and yesterday as part of his sermon he included this joke.
'Teaching the children in sunday school the difference between right and wrong, I asked them what it would be if someone put his hand in another mans pocket and took all his money'
'That would be his wife' replied little johnny.

So its been done many times and I dont see how Denmark are being particularly brave.

they are talking about religious slaughter, not religious laughter, you idiot