Well Done Denmark

[Gittins Gal]

I bet they don't stun those poor little Grouse on the 'Glorious Twelfth?'

They're not raised in a crowded, dark shed before being transported miles crammed into a plastic crate on the back of a truck before being roughly hung upside down from shackles before having their throats cut.

A grouse doesn't even see it coming. Not that I've ever been shooting. Have witnessed it enough times though.

[Project Monkey]

That's a logical as claiming people who claim people to be anti-Semitic for not liking ritual slaughter of animals are racist

I have no problem with halal or kosha meat/slaughter, does that mean I'm NOT a racist?

[Project Monkey]

They're not raised in a crowded, dark shed before being transported miles crammed into a plastic crate on the back of a truck before being roughly hung upside down from shackles before having their throats cut.

A grouse doesn't even see it coming. Not that I've ever been shooting. Have witnessed it enough times though.

I bet the cow doesn't expect 50KV through its brain either!

[Mich the Tester]

According to a muslim friend, for meat to be properly 'halal', it must have been raised in a humane way and any meat from modern 'factory farming' cannot be called halal. The islamic laws on this go much further than the slaughter and actually cover the whole animal's life, because animals are seen as 'nations' in the Qu'ran, which must be treated with respect just like human 'nations'.

So you see I struggle with answering the question. If meat was truly halal then I'd rather eat it than your bog standard supermarket meat, because the animal's life was probably rather better. But, 'humanely slaughtered' meat from an animal that's lived a tulip life couped up in a confined space; is that really any better? Plus; an animal that is slaughtered by a halal or kosher method involves confronting humans with what they're doing; that's at least the symbolism of having an imam or a priest present, and factory meat might be slaughtered by an automated process and some bloke pressing buttons who never actually sees what he's doing.

Of course, I'd prefer that all meat is raised AND slaughtered as humanely as possible, but while we can buy factory farmed, hormone filled meat from unhealthy animals, I find it rather hypocricital to legislating against halal and kosher slaughter. Let's sort the whole process out instead of purely focussing on a ritual at the end of an animal's life.

[NotAllThere]

Done

Half done.

Major FAIL on the poll: no AndyW option. <tuts & shakes head>

Fixed it now.

Denmark have merely followed the lead of Australia and New Zealand. Most of the meat eaten in the Middle East is imported from those countries, funnily enough.

[Gittins Gal]

Half done.

Fixed it now.

Somebody will have to explain this AndyW thing.

I'm perplexed.

Does it have something to do with this Gricer character?

[Scruff]

Forbrydelsen was rather indiscriminate about how they killed people. Neither Kosher nor Halaal.

[Mich the Tester]

Somebody will have to explain this AndyW thing.

I'm perplexed.

Does it have something to do with this Gricer character?

that's a scary thought

[MicrosoftBob]

Somebody will have to explain this AndyW thing.

I'm perplexed.

Does it have something to do with this Gricer character?

Depends, has Gricer ever licked from the chutney spoon and put it back on a hovercraft ?

[d000hg]

Blimey Mich, that was a very well thought out way of saying "I don't know"