We should all urge Scots to stay in Scotland

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Quite possibly they'll heap scorn on the scotsmen that did it as well. Depends how it all pans out.

The UK will be worse off without scotland in the short term, longer term it's hard to say. My feeling is scotland might see some short term gains but will be worse off in the long run.

Heap scorn upon those who stood up to the Tories they never voted for? I think Scotland will shine in the eyes of many on that day.

[doodab]

Heap scorn upon those who stood up to the Tories they never voted for? I think Scotland will shine in the eyes of many on that day.

Thats a very short sighted view. The scots themselves may be well pleased but globally, in the longer run, I think many people will look back and judge it to be a mistake.

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Thats a very short sighted view. The scots themselves may be well pleased but globally, in the longer run, I think many people will look back and judge it to be a mistake.

Well then the UK's place in the EU should be secured with that view.

Mistakes are made to be learned from. Currently our mistakes are made for us and we must suffer the consequences. No one in Scotland wanted to go to war with far flung countries. I doubt an independent Scotland will ever make such mistakes.

[doodab]

Well then the UK's place in the EU should be secured with that view.

Mistakes are made to be learned from. Currently our mistakes are made for us and we must suffer the consequences. No one in Scotland wanted to go to war with far flung countries. I doubt an independent Scotland will ever make such mistakes.

You're blinded by optimism and hopelessly niave.

Gordo was scottish, rbs are scottish. What do you think would have happened in an independent scotland?

How would they have dealt with lockerbie?

Would they definitely not have stood alongside the US after 9/11? When the US with it's scottish diaspora are likely to be important allies on the world stage?

What about in ten or twenty or thirty years time when the downturn is forgotten and the UK booming. How will history judge the splt then?

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How will history judge the splt then?

It depends more on who is teaching it ...

[scooterscot]

It depends more on who is teaching it ...

[doodab]

In the long run I think the UK will be better off as resources currently used on scotland can be diverted to run down regions in england.

We won't need to worry about scottish jobs when making defence spending decisions, those jobs will likely come back to england, plus we'll get the boost to local economies of relocating various military bases and the stimulus that building them will entail.

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You're blinded by optimism and hopelessly niave.

Gordo was scottish, rbs are scottish. What do you think would have happened in an independent scotland?

How would they have dealt with lockerbie?

Would they definitely not have stood alongside the US after 9/11? When the US with it's scottish diaspora are likely to be important allies on the world stage?

What about in ten or twenty or thirty years time when the downturn is forgotten and the UK booming. How will history judge the splt then?

Slay the dreamer, eh doodab?

Gordo should never have been PM - where was our vote? How is this democracy?

RBS is less Scottish than Hawaiian grass skirt. The bulk of the business was not in Scotland.

What has 9/11 got to do with Scotland? Scotland, last I checked, does not involve itself with conflicts no. 10 follows by order of the white house.

I imagine people don't expect there's time in their lives to live with the promise things will be better in 10, 20, or 30 years. Change is needed now. You can feel it. There's hunger for it.

[minestrone]

Westminster will lose 10% of its income and the reduction in cost that it gets from losing Scotland will not account for a saving of 10%. Something nobody ever mentions.

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In the long run I think the UK will be better off as resources currently used on scotland can be diverted to run down regions in england.

We won't need to worry about scottish jobs when making defence spending decisions, those jobs will likely come back to england, plus we'll get the boost to local economies of relocating various military bases and the stimulus that building them will entail.

Resources would probably stay where they are. The jobs are movable, however. It'll be amusing to see the reaction when it comes to deciding where nuclear warheads should be relocated to. Look out Portsmouth.

Why would there be a boost when the taxpayers who contribute the most per head are withdrawn from the system?