What is wrong with The Guardian?

[NickFitz]

Completely hangs for me most of the time, have to close IE with Task manager. They must be using a rightie bastard exclusion script!

It's fair game to provide a basic experience to older versions of IE (less than 8 IMHO), but doing so via a script that cripples older browsers as a side effect would be breathtakingly incompetent.

Sadly, I increasingly find that the "bright sparks" (i.e. younger, supposedly brighter, certainly cheaper) of web development nowadays are fundamentally incompetent when it comes to, um, web development. Sky blocking Jquery's CDN the other day ought to have been a wake-up call, but has instead been dismissed as ignorable incompetence by the incompetent who regard themselves as the elite.

It's not just a Grauniad thing. Sadly, a lot of the finest who used to spread light in such outfits have either made a success of their own business or been hired by firms like Google and Twitter. I personally know a number of the smartest web devs in the UK who have gone down one of those roads. And I'm sorry, but I can't look after all the things they left behind by myself

[EternalOptimist]

It's fair game to provide a basic experience to older versions of IE (less than 8 IMHO), but doing so via a script that cripples older browsers as a side effect would be breathtakingly incompetent.

Sadly, I increasingly find that the "bright sparks" (i.e. younger, supposedly brighter, certainly cheaper) of web development nowadays are fundamentally incompetent when it comes to, um, web development. Sky blocking Jquery's CDN the other day ought to have been a wake-up call, but has instead been dismissed as ignorable incompetence by the incompetent who regard themselves as the elite.

It's not just a Grauniad thing. Sadly, a lot of the finest who used to spread light in such outfits have either made a success of their own business or been hired by firms like Google and Twitter. I personally know a number of the smartest web devs in the UK who have gone down one of those roads. And I'm sorry, but I can't look after all the things they left behind by myself

who cares what it looks like ? the content is rubbish.

a good place to go to buy a car I suppose

[Sysman]

It's fair game to provide a basic experience to older versions of IE (less than 8 IMHO), but doing so via a script that cripples older browsers as a side effect would be breathtakingly incompetent.

Sadly, I increasingly find that the "bright sparks" (i.e. younger, supposedly brighter, certainly cheaper) of web development nowadays are fundamentally incompetent when it comes to, um, web development. Sky blocking Jquery's CDN the other day ought to have been a wake-up call, but has instead been dismissed as ignorable incompetence by the incompetent who regard themselves as the elite.

It's not just a Grauniad thing. Sadly, a lot of the finest who used to spread light in such outfits have either made a success of their own business or been hired by firms like Google and Twitter. I personally know a number of the smartest web devs in the UK who have gone down one of those roads. And I'm sorry, but I can't look after all the things they left behind by myself

A recurring theme is that the designers/developers tend to have fairly beefy up to date boxes to test their stuff on and forget about the general public who have something older which started out life as a budget model.

[xoggoth]

but doing so via a script that cripples older browsers

Yeh but I'm using IE11, all supposed to be pretty standard now ain't it?

I'm very surprised by some errors on major sites. Kept getting a pop up, summit about "Scanstyles does nothing in Firefox". on the DT for weeks. It wasn't just me, so why not fixed sooner? Even backward compatibility to IE6 ain't that hard, just a handful of problems that affect major areas.