What is wrong with The Guardian?

[xoggoth]

but doing so via a script that cripples older browsers

Yeh but I'm using IE11, all supposed to be pretty standard now ain't it?

I'm very surprised by some errors on major sites. Kept getting a pop up, summit about "Scanstyles does nothing in Firefox". on the DT for weeks. It wasn't just me, so why not fixed sooner? Even backward compatibility to IE6 ain't that hard, just a handful of problems that affect major areas.

[Sysman]

It's fair game to provide a basic experience to older versions of IE (less than 8 IMHO), but doing so via a script that cripples older browsers as a side effect would be breathtakingly incompetent.

Sadly, I increasingly find that the "bright sparks" (i.e. younger, supposedly brighter, certainly cheaper) of web development nowadays are fundamentally incompetent when it comes to, um, web development. Sky blocking Jquery's CDN the other day ought to have been a wake-up call, but has instead been dismissed as ignorable incompetence by the incompetent who regard themselves as the elite.

It's not just a Grauniad thing. Sadly, a lot of the finest who used to spread light in such outfits have either made a success of their own business or been hired by firms like Google and Twitter. I personally know a number of the smartest web devs in the UK who have gone down one of those roads. And I'm sorry, but I can't look after all the things they left behind by myself

A recurring theme is that the designers/developers tend to have fairly beefy up to date boxes to test their stuff on and forget about the general public who have something older which started out life as a budget model.

[EternalOptimist]

It's fair game to provide a basic experience to older versions of IE (less than 8 IMHO), but doing so via a script that cripples older browsers as a side effect would be breathtakingly incompetent.

Sadly, I increasingly find that the "bright sparks" (i.e. younger, supposedly brighter, certainly cheaper) of web development nowadays are fundamentally incompetent when it comes to, um, web development. Sky blocking Jquery's CDN the other day ought to have been a wake-up call, but has instead been dismissed as ignorable incompetence by the incompetent who regard themselves as the elite.

It's not just a Grauniad thing. Sadly, a lot of the finest who used to spread light in such outfits have either made a success of their own business or been hired by firms like Google and Twitter. I personally know a number of the smartest web devs in the UK who have gone down one of those roads. And I'm sorry, but I can't look after all the things they left behind by myself

who cares what it looks like ? the content is rubbish.

a good place to go to buy a car I suppose

[NickFitz]

Completely hangs for me most of the time, have to close IE with Task manager. They must be using a rightie bastard exclusion script!

It's fair game to provide a basic experience to older versions of IE (less than 8 IMHO), but doing so via a script that cripples older browsers as a side effect would be breathtakingly incompetent.

Sadly, I increasingly find that the "bright sparks" (i.e. younger, supposedly brighter, certainly cheaper) of web development nowadays are fundamentally incompetent when it comes to, um, web development. Sky blocking Jquery's CDN the other day ought to have been a wake-up call, but has instead been dismissed as ignorable incompetence by the incompetent who regard themselves as the elite.

It's not just a Grauniad thing. Sadly, a lot of the finest who used to spread light in such outfits have either made a success of their own business or been hired by firms like Google and Twitter. I personally know a number of the smartest web devs in the UK who have gone down one of those roads. And I'm sorry, but I can't look after all the things they left behind by myself

[Flashman]

What is wrong with The Guardian?

My first thought would be... a lot.

[barrydidit]

As I said about the BBC, the whole thing is leaning to the left..

I preferred that joke the first time!

[KentPhilip]

As I said about the BBC, the whole thing is leaning to the left..

[xoggoth]

Completely hangs for me most of the time, have to close IE with Task manager. They must be using a rightie bastard exclusion script!

[darmstadt]

I notice in Firefox there is a Mobile link at top. I click and that's what I am seeing by in IE11 using my old shortcut. It's headed "You are viewing an alpha release of the Guardian’s responsive website"

Anyway, clicking on "Opt-out and return to standard desktop site" gives a new link that works in IE.

Latest UK news and comment | UK news | The Guardian

Old link that's weird

Latest news, sport and comment from the Guardian | The Guardian

Blimey, thats a totally different webpage to the one I get: Latest news, sport and comment from the Guardian | The Guardian

Replied before your edit. I get your old link just fine, plus the new one but I also get this if I go to the old one and then select News-UK News from the links at the top

[xoggoth]

I notice in Firefox there is a Mobile link at top. I click and that's what I am seeing by in IE11 using my old shortcut. It's headed "You are viewing an alpha release of the Guardian’s responsive website"

Anyway, clicking on "Opt-out and return to standard desktop site" gives a new link that works in IE.

Latest UK news and comment | UK news | The Guardian

Old link that's weird

http://www.theguardian.com/uk

[darmstadt]

Loaded in less than 10 seconds on all 3, IE 11, Firefox and Chrome for me...

[xoggoth]

I like The Guardian!

[mudskipper]

xoggy reads the Guardian?


works fine for me - IE11, although the banner ad is a bit slow to load.

[xoggoth]

Technically with the website that is.

It looks fairly normal in Firefox but in IE it takes ages to load due to long running script and when/if it does it has a simple layout with no pictures. Guessing IE is loading the mobile version for some reason.

Anyone else seeing this?