Low Carb - High Fat diet

[russell]

No, you're talking about self selection of groups here in a discussion about the chemical processes in the body. Athletes are indeed likely to have characteristics that are more strongly present than in others, like the ability to gain muscle mass, grow new blood vessels or store more glycogen, but the chemical processes in their bodies are exactly the same as in any other mammal's body.

I agree but the process might be impaired if say the pancreas is put under pressure due to the excess sugar in the blood every day caused by glycogen that are not used up by exercise. This leads to the fat accumulation and then insulin resistance and diabetes.

I think it's plausible and will eat this way and monitor my health and the studies that are on going.

[Mich the Tester]

I agree but the process might be impaired if say the pancreas is put under pressure due to the excess sugar in the blood every day caused by glycogen that are not used up by exercise. This leads to the fat accumulation and then insulin resistance and diabetes.

I think it's plausible and will eat this way and monitor my health and the studies that are on going.

Look, make it easy on yourself. Don't do the high fat thing, just replace your spuds (or whatever your choice of starchy meal component is) with a visually similar amount of mushrooms. You won't feel hungry, but you will actually be eating less calories. You will probably lose weight if you stick to this.

[russell]

Look, make it easy on yourself. Don't do the high fat thing, just replace your spuds (or whatever your choice of starchy meal component is) with a visually similar amount of mushrooms. You won't feel hungry, but you will actually be eating less calories. You will probably lose weight if you stick to this.

Why not the high fat? This study suggests there is no link between saturated fat and heart disease. Fat makes you feel fuller for much longer and doesn't cause insulin to rise.

[darmstadt]

Porn starts only have big dicks in comparison to yours.

So that was you having a surreptitious look in the gents this afternoon, I was getting a bit worried there...

[darmstadt]

Why not the high fat? This study suggests there is no link between saturated fat and heart disease. Fat makes you feel fuller for much longer and doesn't cause insulin to rise.

Right, I'm off to get myself a gallon of dripping...and this time I'll actually use it for eating...

[Mich the Tester]

Why not the high fat? This study suggests there is no link between saturated fat and heart disease. Fat makes you feel fuller for much longer and doesn't cause insulin to rise.

No, but you need proteins AND fats AND all sorts of other stuff. Changing the proportions can help to change your proportions, because it can help cut your calorie intake. Meat contains various minerals that fat doesn't contain but which your body needs. Other sources of protein contain vitamins that your body needs. Plus; it contains less calories than fat, so your profit is probably higher.

[expat]

It's not really Atkins, which AIUI has the specific aim of initiating ketosis. This diet (usually called paleo) just aims at eating "right", as in pre-farming, for the rest of your life.

I started it 2 years ago at 94kg. I'm now 77kg. YMMV but I'm happy about being able to tie my shoelaces again.

[Support Monkey]

I agree but the process might be impaired if say the pancreas is put under pressure due to the excess sugar in the blood every day caused by glycogen that are not used up by exercise. This leads to the fat accumulation and then insulin resistance and diabetes.

I think it's plausible and will eat this way and monitor my health and the studies that are on going.

Type 2 only, fat peoples diabetes, type 1 diabetes where you are insulin dependant is not caused by what you eat,

Just saying like!!

[TykeMerc]

- the simple explanation; when you eat fat or protein it stills your hunger. Try eating a plate of mushrooms; there are not many calories in mushrooms but they fill you up. So, people on those diets feel like they're full and stop eating when actually they're eating less calories than when they eat starchy products like spuds or pasta. So, due to eating less calories, and perhaps doing a bit of exercise (burning a bit more) they lose weight.

Perhaps William of Ockham could help here. I think he'd say 'get off your fat bum, stop stuffing yourself with chips and do some exercise'.

I'm no food scientist or serious sportsman that has needed to pay serious attention to foody science, but I find the logic in that pretty convincing.

I've put on a load of weight with a lot of work from home, sod all exercise and just being bone idle, in the past I've countered it with simply taking a bit more exercise and eating a tad more carefully, I really should do that again and stop being so damn lazy

[expat]

BTW the statement that calories in = calories out is true but can be much less helpful than you might think, because your body is a dynamic system, so reducing the calories in may have an effect different from what you wanted. And the nature of the effect may depend on the source of the calories.

One nice example I found that shows how effects can be unexpected comes from a strain of lab rats called obese rates, because that's what they are, genetically. If you cut the food available to these rats, they eventually starve to death, while remaining obese. Calories in = calories out, but sadly for the rats their fat store is maintained at any cost.