Whites only flights!

[Pondlife]

Once scanned and airside it still gets manually loaded onto a cart or into the container. The baggage handler could stick anything else in as well.

Not to mention the 'engineers' who drove right up to an aircraft without being challenged.

[AtW]

Trains, tube, ferries, or anywhere with large numbers of people packed closely in.

Yes, I think this is what they will do next: a sustained wave of suicide bombers like on almost daily basis will actually bring about terror. Say thanks to those who got UK into war in Iraq

[DimPrawn]

Pubs, nightclubs, restaurants. The choice of targets is large and security is almost zero.

[AtW]

Making having no social life and spending all the time in front of computer a rather attractive option now, eh?

[AlfredJPruffock]

By the way, whatever happned about that Terror attack on Canary Wharf?

It does make you wonder, still the Government must be right, we know that might is right.

"Ten days ago Mr Blunkett announced that the intelligence services had thwarted a major al-Qa'ida plot, then added that that they might not be able to convict the people involved. Now we discover that al-Qa'ida are going to crash an aeroplane into Canary Wharf - the whole thing appears to be very cynical indeed."

Patrick Mercer, the Conservative spokesman on homeland security, added: "The Home Secretary is getting his markers down now so that when the inevitable happens he can say, 'Well I warned you, didn't I?' "

Details of the story, which they agreed to run at the same time, are believed to have been provided by a Home Office source several days ago.

Despite having the information for several days, and possibly longer than a week, the newspaper and television programme held the stories until just before the Queen's Speech, which contained Bills to introduce an ID card, an FBI-style organised crime agency and other anti-terrorist measures.

Barry Hugill, a spokesman for Liberty, the civil liberties organisation, said: "The timing and contents of this story look very, very suspicious indeed."


"Ten days ago Mr Blunkett announced that the intelligence services had thwarted a major al-Qa'ida plot, then added that that they might not be able to convict the people involved. Now we discover that al-Qa'ida are going to crash an aeroplane into Canary Wharf - the whole thing appears to be very cynical indeed."

[AlfredJPruffock]

And come to think of it, The attack on Old Trafford?




In April 2004, the British people were alerted to an amazing coup.

They learned how the police had seized a terrorist gang just as it prepared to launch an audacious bomb attack on Old Trafford stadium on match day, an attack which could have killed thousands of people.

It was a national sensation.

And yet there was not a shred of truth in the story. Unlike in the ricin case, the Government cannot be blamed. The police and, to an extent the media, are responsible for the invention.

On the morning of Monday 19 April 2004, more than 400 officers from four police forces, many of them armed, raided half a dozen houses, flats and businesses in and around Manchester. They arrested eight men, one woman and a 16-year-old boy.

They were held for several days and intensively interrogated. In due course the suspects were released. No charges were ever laid.

The newspapers, by contrast, had no doubt about what the story was. The front page of The Sun proclaimed: "MAN U SUICIDE BOMB PLOT". On pages four and five the paper claimed: "EXCLUSIVE: MAN UTD SUICIDE BLASTS FOILED".

Once the story had started to run, it was further fuelled by the Manchester police. Rather than issue a cool denial, they played it up by holding a press conference. The accompanying press release read: "We are confident that the steps that we have taken to date have significantly reduced any potential threat in the Greater Manchester area."

With the weekend fixtures looming, it went on: "Greater Manchester Police and Manchester United Football Club have put in place extra security measures to reassure the public about the safety of both matches."

The police and security services have, very properly, refused to discuss what intelligence led to the raids of 19 April being made. But the police interrogations of the suspects shed a ray of light. One of the suspects, a Kurd, suffered so badly from having his name linked to a terrorist plot that he wants to remain anonymous.

He told me how Old Trafford had cropped up in his interrogation: "I was in the police station and the interview stopped, like a rest, and somebody, they bring in the coffee and they ask me what you like? I say I like the football. Oh, who do you support? They ask me just like a friendly, who do you support? I say Manchester United. Oh, how long you support Manchester United? I said a long time I support Manchester United, when I was tiny, I was small, you know and all my family supported Manchester United ... they asked me, have you been football ground? I said, of course I've been to the football ground. Two years ago, long time ago, I can't remember."

These questions were surely prompted by the discovery, at the anonymous suspect's flat, of Manchester United paraphernalia: a poster of Old Trafford, and ticket stubs the suspect had kept as souvenirs of his only visit to the ground, when he had gone with a friend to watch United play Arsenal the year before.

The two friends had bought their tickets from touts, which meant that they sat at different parts of the ground. The Sun reported that the bombers planned to sit at different parts of the ground, in order to cause maximum damage with their bombs. This claim can only have been based on the fact that the old ticket stubs found by the police were for seats in different parts of the stadium. This information had not been made public, so The Sun could only have obtained it from the police.

The Kurds I spoke to had come to Britain in order to escape the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime. Perhaps their most meaningful emotional connection with Britain was a love for Manchester United, which was why they kept the souvenirs in their flat. The Manchester police discovered nothing else suspicious. Nevertheless the police probably viewed the Manchester United souvenirs as potential evidence of a bomb plot. This evidence was then prematurely leaked, through unofficial police sources, to the press.

Manchester police then encouraged the story to run by issuing public statements that, while falling a long way short of giving outright confirmation, could be read as corroborating the story. Disgracefully, the Greater Manchester Police refused to launch an investigation into the numerous leaks.

The reporting of this incident was inflammatory and misleading. It caused needless alarm among millions of TV viewers and newspaper readers. It stirred up anti-Islamic prejudice. It ruined the lives of several of the suspects. They lost their homes, their jobs and their friends as a result.

They have never received a personal apology, either from the police or from the press.

[andy]

[PropertyCrashUK]

The mad mullahs declared war on the West and also on moderate Islam back in the 1970s and have been 'refining' their hatred ever since. Anyone who thinks that us being in the Middle East is the cause is a moron IMPO, anyone who thinks that the West retreating to Western countries and never going near Islamic countries again will stop these evil people is, again IMPO, a moron.

As soon as these people get a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon they are going to use. I suspect London is target number 1 and I suspect something terrible will happen there in the coming years resulting in the death of vast numbers of people.

We are at War but this nation is now too politically correct to admit it.

[sappatz]

pakis

arabs and pakis should be kicked out of UK and Europe
the sooner the better !
nobody would welcome djihadists thugs in his own house. the arrogancy of the british muslim council goes also overboard.
they are no more welcome. it should be clear to everyone

[Bagpuss]

The mad mullahs declared war on the West and also on moderate Islam back in the 1970s and have been 'refining' their hatred ever since. Anyone who thinks that us being in the Middle East is the cause is a moron IMPO, anyone who thinks that the West retreating to Western countries and never going near Islamic countries again will stop these evil people is, again IMPO, a moron.

As soon as these people get a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon they are going to use. I suspect London is target number 1 and I suspect something terrible will happen there in the coming years resulting in the death of vast numbers of people.

We are at War but this nation is now too politically correct to admit it.

No but the home grown bombers are politisied by recent foreign policy, anyone who says otherwise is

PC/an idiot/an enemy of the state (whichever stiffles debate)