Go, Suity!

[Mich the Tester]

Not trolling Suity. I've met you and you're a nice guy but why is every gig such hassle? I've been doing this for over thirty years now and yeah while I've seen the good and the bad I've put the ******* in their place when necessary and invoiced and generally had a great time doing it.

You're in somebody else's environment so you dance to their tune or fck off, end of the day it's always gonna be your choice.

Just from what you've posted this'll be another flounce / they're not professional / they don't understand me. Not got a crystal ball just basing this on yer previous posts. Best of luck.

Yep, Suity he's got a point. It's great that you want to do things in a professional manner but it's alll dependent on the context. If clientco wants things done quick and dirty and knows the risks of doing that then that's what has to be done. As long as he knows the risk he's taking of course. It's their company and their money they're risking, not yours.

[Mich the Tester]

An IB in Jersey? Sounds fishy to me, some offshore tax evasion outfit.

Got the phone number?

[MarillionFan]

Got the phone number?

His new colleagues Jimmy Carr, Lester Piggot & Ken Dodd said there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

[aardvark]

Nothing wrong with quick and dirty on occasion. It can be fun.

[minestrone]

"If I can't write a 54 page spec I'm going home!!"

[Mich the Tester]

Suity, do it their way and send them an invoice.

That is all.

[MarillionFan]

"If I can't write a 54 page spec I'm going home!!"

ftfy

[Scrag Meister]

He's more of a man than you, you crossing dressing nonce.

Like this you mean?

[Old Greg]

Like this you mean?

At least we know now where MF's professional name 'Mollybags' originates from.

The Lollipop Man
Various Artists - The Mother of all Morris
Chorus: trad. Verses: © Jim Causley, Paul Wilson & Marilyn Tucker 2007
Oh the lollipop man has a great big stick
And all that he charges is a penny a lick
And he gets it out whenever he can
He’s a dirty old devil is the lollipop man
Who is this with his spurty spout?
A dribbly cone, you can suck it all out
And a knicker-knocker glory, it’s the ice-cream man
But he cannot hold a candle to the lollipop man
Who is this with his grimy sack?
You can have it up the front or he’ll shove it round the back
With his sooty old nuts it’s the dirty coalman
But he’ll never hold a candle to the lollipop man
Who is this with his long stiff brush?
He rams it up the flu with a shove and a push
And he doesn’t give a toss; he’s the chimney sweep man
But he’ll never hold a candle to the lollipop man
And who is this with his floppy mop?
It’s long and it’s wet with a foam on top
Well he’s squeaky clean; it’s the window cleaner man
But he’ll never hold a candle to the lollipop man
Who is this with a silver top?
It’s nothing that a little blue-tit can’t pop
With his manly jugs it’s the creamy milkman
But he cannot hold a candle to the lollipop man
And who is this with his petticoats gay?
Powder puff and curly wig and lingerie
Well it’s old Mollybags, neither woman nor a man
But she’ll never hold a candle to the lollipop man
Who is this taking down your draws?
He never ever shoots and he seldom scores
Well it’s never jackpot with the Littlewoods man
And he’ll never hold a candle to the lollipop man
Who is this with the long bent fruit?
He peels back the skin and he slips on his suit
Well his real name’s Eric, he’s Banana Man
But he’ll never hold a candle to the lollipop man

[suityou01]

Thanks for the feedback. It is noted. Especially MTT.

Had some feedback from ClientCo. They were a bit quiet yesterday when I passed across the change requests. These have now been approved, and comments passed on the high quality. I have written test plans today and I'm all ready to begin the build.

I was thanked for my hard work and told to keep doing it this way as they recognise this is a significant improvement on the way things had been done in the past.

That said, it was always a bit of a coin toss. I understand it is their money and systems they are risking, but it would also be my reputation, wouldn't it?

For example, you do sloppy work as you just meekly accept this is the way things are done, it goes to pot, how do you defend against that? I cut corners as requested, pointed out the risks, they took them and it's all their fault?

For me, and the way I operate as a business I am a consultant. I am paid well to do good work, and offer advice and consultancy where it is wanted. In this case there was nothing, nada, so I quietly and quickly have put a simple process and a couple of templates into practice. Done without rubbing their noses in it. Now this is the norm. For me I feel good about doing this, and I feel personally rewarded for my efforts as I have quickly established some respect.

The set up is weird, there's the agency, the consultancy, a third party provider and the client. I am there as MeCo, operating with zero backup in a bear pit, so I think I am right to be cautious.

Sorry if this doesn't fit in the the more laissez-faire of you (not getting on at Mitch or Cliphead as I get what they are saying) but it is how I work.