Sarah Palin critical of the Pope for not being enough of an extremist nutjob

[doodab]

Anyone heard or read anything interesting lately?

Natural Justice by Ken Binmore is very interesting. I have one called "Complexity and the Arrow of Time" after that. Then I might have a crack at Vicious Circles: On the Mathematics of Non-Wellfounded Phenomena Center for the Study of Language and Information Publication Lecture Notes: Amazon.co.uk: Jon Barwise, Lawrence Moss: Books which looks interesting.

[masonryan]

What are the outcomes of science

Flight,
Space exploration,
The Internet,
Computers,
MRI,
etc...

Religion now....
hmmm

errrr

????

Those are the results of modern science, founded by Christians not loud-mouthed atheists.

[Mich the Tester]

Then you know nothing. Thanks for confirming that.

Although of course I don't know with complete certainty whether I know that I know nothing with complete certainty.

I think religion probably works better for you, because it presents so-called 'unchanging pillars' for you to hold on to. Stick with it, but choose one that hasn't changed too much in the last couple of thousand years. I guess that discounts all three of the big Abrahamic religions.

[cojak]

Those are the results of modern science, founded by Christians not loud-mouthed atheists.

Can someone explain the term 'false logic' to masonryan, (and how it is used by trolls to divert arguments)?

[DirtyDog]

So you don't believe the laws of logic are absolute? Then why would you trust any scientific theory as they could be wrong tomorrow if laws of logic can just change.

Exactly.

Scientific theory has changed over time. Science is only correct until proven otherwise - assert something, prove it, get it peer reviewed, get it accepted as fact. Until something comes along and disproves it.

Part of this involves having an open mind. As a Christian who believes in evolution, I don't see that as an issue - there is actually an argument to be had that evolution confirms the existence of God. There is enough evidence, based on the current scientific thinking that evolution is fact. Prove it wrong, collect your Nobel prize.

[masonryan]

Although of course I don't know with complete certainty whether I know that I know nothing with complete certainty.

So why should anyone listen to anything you say since you don't know anything, by your own admission.

[eek]

Those are the results of modern science, founded by Christians not loud-mouthed atheists.

Based on the work of the Chinese or Arabs (neither of whom can be classified as Christian).

[DirtyDog]

Religion now....
hmmm

errrr

????

Some fantastic artwork and music.

[DirtyDog]

Although of course I don't know with complete certainty whether I know that I know nothing with complete certainty.

Do you know any known unknowns?

[masonryan]

Exactly.

Scientific theory has changed over time.

Laws of logic have not, is my point. Do you agree? yes/no