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Recent immigrants to UK 'make net contribution'

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    #21
    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Not if they turn up on their own without their parents - then the state ( in other words us) - have a duty of care for them until they are 18. Once they reach that age as they know no other country they are given leave to remain. Some parents have actually committed suicide to ensure their son or daughter remains in the UK.

    Not if their parents are here legitimately - SimonMac is complaining about migrants who are here legally getting social housing.

    So you were wrong, I pointed that out and are now trying to disguise your backtracking by listing some stuff you just read on the web.

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      #22
      Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
      Recent immigrants to UK make a net contribution says a report written by recent immigrants studding at UCL
      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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        #23
        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        Not if their parents are here legitimately - SimonMac is complaining about migrants who are here legally getting social housing.
        I am complaining about the lazy arsed natives who think they are too good to do unskilled jobs and in turn want everything handed to them on a plate
        Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
        I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

        I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Paddy View Post
          Recent immigrants to UK make a net contribution says a report written by recent immigrants studding at UCL
          Why not take a look at the report and raise objections to their research methods?
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #25
            Originally posted by minestrone View Post
            I don't care what set of rules and guidelines they have to justify their mismanagement of this issue, there are 400,000 social houses in this country that are taken by immigrants and that is unacceptable. The number of migrants in social housing is not that far below the waiting list number, 2 problems 1 fix.

            If an immigrant wants a house It should be "sorry the UK has not worked out for you, there is a travel agent 2 doors down where you can book your return journey, thank you"
            Yeah, estates should be white and nothing but white.
            McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
            Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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              #26
              Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
              Yeah, estates should be white and nothing but white.
              oh look its the race card!

              Does it matter if the estates all talk Polish or Romanian?

              Or that the people being squeezed out of work are the Indians / Africans that came over in the 60s?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                Why not take a look at the report and raise objections to their research methods?
                I expect their research methods are impeccable. The problem is that without considering all aspects, you get a result that hides the true picture.
                It is undoubtedly true that the immigrants have paid more in tax than they claimed in benefits. This though does not prove a net benefit to Britain. For example, if there was no immigration in the study period, would the jobs they took remain unfilled? I doubt it. More likely the employers would have had to pay a more attractive wage that would have ultimately resulted in a higher tax take. Also, how much of the money paid to migrant workers is sent out of the country? Money that would have remained in the British economy.
                Studies like this really make me mad. Especially when the politicians and the bbc then jump on it and use it as proof for something else.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by alluvial View Post
                  More likely the employers would have had to pay a more attractive wage that would have ultimately resulted in a higher tax take. Also, how much of the money paid to migrant workers is sent out of the country? Money that would have remained in the British economy.
                  Studies like this really make me mad. Especially when the politicians and the bbc then jump on it and use it as proof for something else.
                  And lower profits for the companies therefore a lower tax take on corporation tax?

                  Anyway, I think you'll find that what's making you mad isn't the study, but the way politicians and media use one study to push their own agenda; one study on its own cannot present a good picture and it needs to be seen in the context of other studies. But that's too complicated for the meejah.
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
                    I am complaining about the lazy arsed natives who think they are too good to do unskilled jobs and in turn want everything handed to them on a plate
                    Which ones are those?

                    UK: work and ethnicity - The Poverty Site

                    This looks more likely that if you are in an ethnic minority you are less likely to work and in some cases want to work.

                    These are mainly pre 1999 but it does suggest those immigrants 'going native' might not want to work once they discover benefits.

                    AGAIN, why would you work below a living wage if benefits pay you more to sit on your bum?

                    Until you stop immigration (cutting off supply), make it uncomfortable to be on benefits (via workfare), and watch wages rise you won't fix this.
                    Last edited by vetran; 5 November 2013, 12:19.

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                      #30
                      Live and let live

                      one day at a time

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