Recent immigrants to UK 'make net contribution'

[CoolCat]

Social housing doesn't mean benefits, there are plenty of people who pay their own rent on council or housing association properties

All social housing has massively subsidised rents. Which is why it is so ridiculous to have so many wealthy people living in social housing. We would be better off subsidising needy people rather than bricks and mortar which is rationed and often in sub optimal parts of the country away from potential jobs.

[Mich the Tester]

Plus migration is never straight forward ...

You are making it very complicated. Think of the simpletons; the world is too complicated for them as it is.

[minestrone]

A lot of migrants come in and take the low paid / unskilled jobs that the natives find too demeaning to do themselves, as they are low earners they are entitled to tax credits and housing assistance, are you saying the same natives who sit on their arse watching Jeremy Kyle are more deserving for the social housing?

So we get an immigrant family across so the dad can take up a minimum wage job in a hospital and we give him a house, tax credits and lets his 3 kids go to school.

What was I thinking? that clearly is economically advantageous to the country.

[Mich the Tester]

So we get an immigrant family across so the dad can take up a minimum wage job in a hospital and we give him a house, tax credits and lets his 3 kids go to school.

What was I thinking? that clearly is economically advantageous to the country.

Maybe not, but if there's nobody else prepared to clean the tulip off hospital beds and floors, there'll be hygiene issues.

[minestrone]

Unfortunately it's a case of "think of the children". You can't just kick children out of the country as we signed up to various UN conventions.

Plus migration is never straight forward - there are those migrants who are married to British citizens, those who came here as children, and those who are OAPs and have lived here since they were 20, included in most UK migration figures.

We can deport children and we do deport children.

[vetran]

A lot of migrants come in and take the low paid / unskilled jobs that the natives find too demeaning to do themselves, as they are low earners they are entitled to tax credits and housing assistance, are you saying the same natives who sit on their arse watching Jeremy Kyle are more deserving for the social housing?

Why should the 'Natives' take a job on below subsistence wages when we pay them benefits?

If its the 'Natives' fault they can't be bothered to work maybe we should fix that not supplant them.

Despite the positive figures in the decade since the millennium, the study found that between 1995 and 2011, immigrants from non-EEA countries claimed more in benefits than they paid in taxes, mainly because they tended to have more children than native Britons.

wonder if this is because the 'New Natives' are breeding more?

[vetran]

Maybe not, but if there's nobody else prepared to clean the tulip off hospital beds and floors, there'll be hygiene issues.

There were plenty of people prepared to do that, they just don't want to do it for less money than they need to live reasonably when they can claim benefits.

[gingerjedi]

There were plenty of people prepared to do that, they just don't want to do it for less money than they need to live reasonably when they can claim benefits.

Exactly, too many wealthy people benefit from the status quo yet still feel the need to have a dig at those with few options.

An open door policy was only ever going to exasperate the situation, it's only the comfortably off who seem to think it's a good idea.

[SueEllen]

We can deport children and we do deport children.

Not if they turn up on their own without their parents - then the state ( in other words us) - have a duty of care for them until they are 18. Once they reach that age as they know no other country they are given leave to remain. Some parents have actually committed suicide to ensure their son or daughter remains in the UK.

Not if their parents are here legitimately - SimonMac is complaining about migrants who are here legally getting social housing.

[SueEllen]

wonder if this is because the 'New Natives' are breeding more?

They do breed more then they realise the error of their ways and encourage their children to breed less.