Tories toughen their image with hard line on benefits

[sasguru]

Scooterscot is a cretin.

FTFY.
Since he so obviously has a cognitive deficit, I can only conclude that whatever work he does in Germany is of a routine nature. That would explain his relative lack of success, living in a small flat in Munich and paying only Euro30K tax.
He is mediocrity personified.
But I will bow out now and let him keep posting on his thread thus removing all doubt about his cretinism.

[d000hg]

According to the beeb:

What would Labour do?

Labour would guarantee anyone who has been out of work for more than two years a part-time job. Those affected would be given the national minimum wage to work for 25 hours a week.

Yeah, of course they are. I used to live in a small impoverished NE town (large village really). Whole streets were on benefits long-term, and happy to remain that way. Hundreds or morelikely, thousands of families. The town had one small town centre with perhaps a couple of dozen shops and businesses, most employing maybe 3 staff or so - a guy running a takeaway, a family run florist, one small supermarket and a few pubs.

So where are all these, generally rather thick and chavvy, people going to get jobs? The vast majority do not have cars and bus transport is not a trivial cost... besides the bulk of work they might do on farms or something wouldn't be accessible by bus. If there were jobs. And if they had ever been trained how to do a job.

[Ticktock]

According to the beeb:Yeah, of course they are. I used to live in a small impoverished NE town (large village really). Whole streets were on benefits long-term, and happy to remain that way. Hundreds or morelikely, thousands of families. The town had one small town centre with perhaps a couple of dozen shops and businesses, most employing maybe 3 staff or so - a guy running a takeaway, a family run florist, one small supermarket and a few pubs.

So where are all these, generally rather thick and chavvy, people going to get jobs? The vast majority do not have cars and bus transport is not a trivial cost... besides the bulk of work they might do on farms or something wouldn't be accessible by bus. If there were jobs. And if they had ever been trained how to do a job.

Hire them as tax inspectors.

[SueEllen]

besides the bulk of work they might do on farms or something wouldn't be accessible by bus. If there were jobs.

Liebour would fund the one daily bus to get them to and from work at the local farm.

Off course I'm making this up - none of the parties have a clue of why people who exist on minimum wages, low intelligence and no get up and go, can't just pick up and work someone else.

[RedSauce]

Am I missing the point, the article doesn't say they would be working full-time. If you are getting £60 benefits a week and minimum wage is £6ph make them work 10 hours a week

[SueEllen]

Am I missing the point, the article doesn't say they would be working full-time. If you are getting £60 benefits a week and minimum wage is £6ph make them work 10 hours a week

I pity the charity or employer who takes them on.

[vetran]

Am I missing the point, the article doesn't say they would be working full-time. If you are getting £60 benefits a week and minimum wage is £6ph make them work 10 hours a week

30 hours minimum.

National Minimum Wage for apprentices - Apprenticeships

£2.65 / hour if you are an apprentice.

Used to be £20 a week on YTS when it was £30 for dole.

also its very easy to make it sound unfair if you only mention the JSA, the other stuff adds up, as I said earlier break even for family with 2 kids is about £7.50 an hour.

[vetran]

I pity the charity or employer who takes them on.

Indeed after 2 years of unemployment they may well need a lot of support.

But the mandatory treatment for drug/Alcohol is a good thing.

[vetran]

So where are all these, generally rather thick and chavvy, people going to get jobs? The vast majority do not have cars and bus transport is not a trivial cost... besides the bulk of work they might do on farms or something wouldn't be accessible by bus. If there were jobs. And if they had ever been trained how to do a job.

well if you inspire them why would they not build businesses and create employment. not all long term unemployed are thick, many just do the maths and realise there is no point getting out of bed if the state will pay them to stay in it and breed.

[RedSauce]

Indeed after 2 years of unemployment they may well need a lot of support.

But the mandatory treatment for drug/Alcohol is a good thing.

I thought they couldn't do this under archaic anti-slavery laws (seem to remember a case where a graduate was forced to work in a supermarket)