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    #51
    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    I don't think there is much of a problem with Christians women's rights in the UK.

    Can we say that about Muslim women? In fact as we don't have the balls to make them register their faith marriages underage weddings are pretty common and also having multiple married women is pretty common, I cant even be bothered starting on the face masks, forced marriage, honour killings or mutilation. These problems are rampant. We should stop making excuses for them and be more confrontational if we want to bring the religion into the 21st century.
    You are one misguided individual, all of the above is nothing to do with islam, get educated idiot

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      #52
      Originally posted by GSL View Post
      You are one misguided individual, all of the above is nothing to do with islam, get educated idiot
      Now you're being silly. It is something to do with Islam, but not everything to do with Islam.

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        #53
        Originally posted by minestrone View Post
        I don't think there is much of a problem with Christians women's rights in the UK..
        True, abortion, contraception & no role in church hierarchy (or whatever priests are called) may not seem as bad as perceived Islamic issues, but it does, IMHO, prevent Christians from being able to comment on Islamic woman’s rights without being hypocrites.

        Of course the statement above is over simplified & has no reflection on the many different aspects of Christianity or Islam.

        & no following either I am not an expert to comment in depth on them.
        Growing old is mandatory
        Growing up is optional

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          #54
          Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
          Well in that case there seems to be a reason to to take action against those particular schools, but that's something different to denouncing a whole religion.
          That's an oversimplification to think it's just a religion, it's as much an ideology and a way of life
          Doing the needful since 1827

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            #55
            Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
            That's an oversimplification to think it's just a religion, it's as much an ideology and a way of life
            As long as someone's keep an eye on over-simplification, then we should be OK.

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              #56
              Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
              That's an oversimplification to think it's just a religion, it's as much an ideology and a way of life
              That's an oversimplification; Islam includes many ideologies and ways of life, with some common factors like the belief in the teachings of Mohammed, but also with many interpretations of his teachings. Althought actually, there was one muslim 'fundamentalist' who gained a following in Nigeria in the 1970s who disputed whether Mohammed was a prophet.
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #57
                It is the low hanging fruit for investigative journalists to go to mosques or Islamic centres with hidden cameras and strike up a conversation about jihad, even channel 4 got bored of it.

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                  #58
                  Let's get back on track.

                  Why is it so much of the youth are anti muslim when they of any generation have had the most integrated contact with them throughout their education?
                  But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Gibbon View Post
                    Let's get back on track.

                    Why is it so much of the youth are anti muslim when they of any generation have had the most integrated contact with them throughout their education?
                    Well, it says about 25%; that's not suprising to me as I've noticed that all over Europe the parties that oppose 'foreigners' or 'foreign religions' gain somewhere between 10 and 20% of the votes, sometimes reaching 25% but rarely more.

                    Remember, young peoples views tend to change as they get more life experience. I'd be interested to see this broken down to levels of education.
                    We should alo remember this; "BBC Radio 1 Newsbeat survey was carried out by the pollsters Comres in June after the soldier Lee Rigby was murdered in the street in Woolwich, south east London, in May. "
                    Just the kind of moment when people might say something they wouldn't otherwise say, and they might think differently after a while.
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Gibbon View Post
                      Let's get back on track.

                      Why is it so much of the youth are anti muslim when they of any generation have had the most integrated contact with them throughout their education?
                      Probably because Islam doesn't tolerate alcohol, frowns on sex outside of marriage has a thing about "Dressing modestly" and would like you to pray to an imaginary friend 5 times a day?

                      Quite frankly that's going to get up the nose of the vast majority 15 - 29 year olds.

                      A religion that means you can't get p*ssed on Friday night and try and get laid is always going to be viewed as suspicious by the good-old British teenager.

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