Muslim awareness classes for schools?

[Ticktock]

More likely he has no true muslim friends and simply tolerates those around until a certain incident breaks his tolerance threshold. Note:- tolerance does not equate to liking

Well, he is a complete prick, to be fair.

[Mich the Tester]

Could you imagine how peed off you would be (in addition to already being disgusted by the atrocity) if you were Muslim and these nutters were pretending to represent you even though they have nothing to do with you.....

Yes, and then being expected to apologise or condemn them publically when it's nothing to do with you.

[vetran]

like most religions believers have different degrees of obsession and ways they feel the faith directs them.

I would like to see though the organisations fronting Islam to come out and decry such acts of violence.

[Mich the Tester]

like most religions believers have different degrees of obsession and ways they feel the faith directs them.

I would like to see though the organisations fronting Islam to come out and decry such acts of violence.

But which organisation? The Muslim Council of Britain regularly denounces violence, and I saw in the ticker news yesterday that their Kenyan counterparts had denounced this. I think you'll find that many muslim organisations do their best to denounce the violence but are drowned out in the noise or ignored by the gutter press.

[minestrone]

The Koran advocates violence towards women, that is fact.

What the nation has to work out is if a religion that believes such things should be promoted to be a valid belief system. I don't think it should.

[original PM]

Thats the crux for me...

If anywhere in your religous teachings it advocates violence against any other living being then it is not a religion mearly a mask you can wear to wage war.

[Mich the Tester]

The Koran advocates violence towards women, that is fact.

What the nation has to work out is if a religion that believes such things should be promoted to be a valid belief system. I don't think it should.

How, precisely, would anything be 'promoted to be a valid belief system'? Other than the Church of England, which has a constitutional role, what would this 'promotion' entail? Could the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster go through a similar process?

[original PM]

How, precisely, would anything be 'promoted to be a valid belief system'? Other than the Church of England, which has a constitutional role, what would this 'promotion' entail? Could the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster go through a similar process?

if we accept that it is ok for people to get together and form a group that believes in violence against other living things we are, by our lack of opposition to it, promoting it to be a valid belief system.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

The Koran advocates violence towards women, that is fact.

What the nation has to work out is if a religion that believes such things should be promoted to be a valid belief system. I don't think it should.

Your interpretation.

The core of all these beliefs is the same, it is always the ambiguities which causes extremists and by you saying "that is a fact" you have just placed yourself amongst them...

[Ticktock]

if we accept that it is ok for people to get together and form a group that believes in violence against other living things we are, by our lack of opposition to it, promoting it to be a valid belief system.

So the NFU is a religion?