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Should Scotland be an independent country?

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    #41
    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    It is a great country with a long love/hate history with the English.

    I think many Scots do feel disempowered - maybe independence would give back national pride which, although intangible, I imagine goes a long way to economic success.
    Flag waving and anthem singing is all very well but it doesn't put food on the table.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #42
      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
      Flag waving and anthem singing is all very well but it doesn't put food on the table.
      Not so I'm afraid...

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        #43
        Originally posted by Chunk View Post
        Not so I'm afraid...
        Oh yes it is
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #44
          England has a crippled sense of nationality, I find it quite funny that they are handing out lectures in patriotism now.

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            #45
            Originally posted by minestrone View Post
            England has a crippled sense of nationality, I find it quite funny that they are handing out lectures in patriotism now.
            The Scots are always the victims. let them go their own way and find their own confidence - like the Irish. One thing is for sure that unless they ditch the left wing "parties of entitlement" they won't become rich.
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              #46
              Originally posted by minestrone View Post
              England has a crippled sense of nationality, I find it quite funny that they are handing out lectures in patriotism now.
              For starters England has no parliament of its own, and has a liberal establishment hell bent on destroying any last vestige of English identity

              I can only see independence being good for everyone...

              Scotland has one less excuse to whinge about, and England might think about trying to regenrate the poorer regions of England rather than spending a fortune trying to bribe the rest of the union to stay together
              Doing the needful since 1827

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                #47
                Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                The Scots are always the victims. let them go their own way and find their own confidence - like the Irish. One thing is for sure that unless they ditch the left wing "parties of entitlement" they won't become rich.
                Recruitment agents are victims too
                And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                  The Scots are always the victims. let them go their own way and find their own confidence - like the Irish. One thing is for sure that unless they ditch the left wing "parties of entitlement" they won't become rich.
                  Going by this, and other threads the victim status seems to be more from the English. "we have to bribe you and you don't love us so leave will you".

                  England does have a crippled sense of identity though, on that we can agree, it can't handle its own communities independent identity, the flag has right wing connotations to many and it can't handle its relationship with Europe. None of this will go away of Scotland splits.

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                    #49
                    Oh, please let them vote yes!

                    Pretty, pretty please!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Chunk View Post
                      Oh, please let them vote yes!

                      Pretty, pretty please!
                      What possible good will it do you either way?
                      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                      Originally posted by vetran
                      Urine is quite nourishing

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