Steve Ballmer is to retire

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When you've made another 4,971 posts you can also get your very own custom status.

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When you've made another 4,971 posts you can also get your very own custom status.

Having read the first 29 posts lets hope he leaves before then...

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Even during his time as CEO he went on to create further innovation and jobs.

IT job creation in the last decade was mostly due to Internet in general rather than Microsoft in particular.

If Ballmer was doing his job properly he'd have his replacement appointed today - that person would have worked side by side in Microsoft so would know all issues. Having a committee formed to select next CEO is an indictment to utter failure of Ballmers leadership. You don't need to go further than Intel to see how much more professional they are there and they face same kind of existential problems as Microsoft does now.

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There is a reason for the "Red" in Red Hat...the massive support fees is one of them!

You don't have to use Red Hat Linux, so no need to pay those fees.

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You don't have to use Red Hat Linux, so no need to pay those fees.

Secondary question. You do know that when big companies pay those fees its because they need high quality support now. You don't need to pay for it but companies do because they want the correct solution quickly.

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Secondary question. You do know that when big companies pay those fees its because they need high quality support now. You don't need to pay for it but companies do because they want the correct solution quickly.

Yes, for sure - it's normally a small cost to big companies compared to crazy CAL/processor tax from Microsoft. Could Google create search engine if they had to license Windows to run it? Absolutely zero chance.

I'd say it's more important to have experienced admin who uses those systems a lot, this saves on fees paid to Red Hat.

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Yes, for sure - it's normally a small cost to big companies compared to crazy CAL/processor tax from Microsoft.

I'd say it's more important to have experienced admin who uses those systems a lot, this saves on fees paid to Red Hat.

If its oracle you need to show oracle that you have those experienced people (and that you employ them) before they will even sell you support.

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If its oracle you need to show oracle that you have those experienced people (and that you employ them) before they will even sell you support.

Oracle is

Makes Microsoft look like a bargain

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Let's get this straight, much as I am an Apple Fanboi, OSX is not Unix, it's Unix-like, but not Unix.

Redhat is not Unix, neither is Ubuntu or whatever, Mint, TwatOS, Slitaz, whatever else stupid-name they come with, they are not Unix.

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Let's get this straight, much as I am an Apple Fanboi, OSX is not Unix, it's Unix-like, but not Unix.

Redhat is not Unix, neither is Ubuntu or whatever, Mint, TwatOS, Slitaz, whatever else stupid-name they come with, they are not Unix.

osx is based on BSD but that is only because OSX is really NeXTSTEP because all Apple OS9 replacement projects totally and utterly failed .

Equally Linux and all the 100s of derivatives are not Unix because Unix required paying licence fees Linus Tolvards and RMS couldn't and didn't want to pay.