Cars

[tranceporter]

What about a Skoda Octavia VRS? : reliable, practical, fast, loads of cheap used ones as new model has just come out.

Excellent choice, if I may say. You can also remap them for nothing, and they show tremendous improvement on the torque curve, especially in the mid range. Addictive turbo whine as well, though not as great as the demonic supercharger whine on a supercharged V8. The only problem is that they are FWD, which means they slide all over the roundabouts in snow. Hence the next choice. A Mazda 6 MPS. 4WD, 2.3T, 260 bhp, 280 lb-ft, with 6 gears.

[Ticktock]

The only problem is that they are FWD, which means they slide all over the roundabouts in snow.

Just put some winter tyres on the front wheels and Shirley you'll be sorted?

[gingerjedi]

Excellent choice, if I may say. You can also remap them for nothing, and they show tremendous improvement on the torque curve, especially in the mid range. Addictive turbo whine as well, though not as great as the demonic supercharger whine on a supercharged V8. The only problem is that they are FWD, which means they slide all over the roundabouts in snow. Hence the next choice. A Mazda 6 MPS. 4WD, 2.3T, 260 bhp, 280 lb-ft, with 6 gears.

Not as much as a 'premium' RWD German car.

[tranceporter]

Just put some winter tyres on the front wheels and Shirley you'll be sorted?

I can't be bothered swapping tyres. Would rather have a 4WD or a RWD. On second thoughts..

[doodab]

Not as much as a 'premium' RWD German car.

That's why mine is 4wd.

[DimPrawn]

Excellent choice, if I may say. You can also remap them for nothing, and they show tremendous improvement on the torque curve, especially in the mid range. Addictive turbo whine as well, though not as great as the demonic supercharger whine on a supercharged V8. The only problem is that they are FWD, which means they slide all over the roundabouts in snow. Hence the next choice. A Mazda 6 MPS. 4WD, 2.3T, 260 bhp, 280 lb-ft, with 6 gears.

They're quite rare.

They look very chavvy. I like them.

[Mich the Tester]

They look very chavvy. I like them.

I'm sure there's a feedback loop in that causal link.

[gingerjedi]

I can't be bothered swapping tyres. Would rather have a 4WD or a RWD. On second thoughts..

But RWD is useless in snow and ice and 4WD is unnecessary 99% of the time, why the hate for FWD? I can honestly say I haven't noticed torque steer or under-steer since modern cars have been fitted with all the electronic stability gubbins. Maybe I just don't drive as 'enthusiastically' as I once did?

[tranceporter]

They're quite rare.

They look very chavvy. I like them.

Lol, I will be selling mine soon.

[Moscow Mule]

But RWD is useless in snow and ice and 4WD is unnecessary 99% of the time, why the hate for FWD? I can honestly say I haven't noticed torque steer or under-steer since modern cars have been fitted with all the electronic stability gubbins. Maybe I just don't drive as 'enthusiastically' as I once did?

99% of the time, a 4WD is not in full 4WD.