Cars

[Mich the Tester]

BTW, is that the V8 one? A friend had one and I will admit I was quite envious, they're very nice, both in looks (especially all black) and sound.

Yep, supercharged 4.2 V8, black, black leather interior. Sound is wonderful partly thanks to a stainless steel aftermarket exhaust which apparently also pushes it over 400 bhp. Which is enough for me.

[Old Hack]

300 bhp from a V12 6.0L



No wonder everyone bought German and Jap cars.

That engine (6.0) was actually introduced 1993.

Toyota Supra MK IV was introduced the same year with 320 bhp from a 3 litre engine.....

...and the V12 introduced by BMW in the 90's had?

I cna tell you by the way...

Not a lot more is the answer (322)

[Old Hack]

To be fair, Ferrari were getting 240hp from a 3.0 v8 back then & the Audi Quattro had close to 100BHP/litre but that had a turbocharger which is cheating a bit. The BMW M635 was pretty powerful as well, had the engine out of the M1.

The jag V12 was popular for replica Ferrari Daytonas IIRC.

Original M5 'only' had 271 bhp, same as the M1 supercar. BMW 5.4 litre V12 introduced 1996 only had 322 bhp.

I had a 2.5l I5 turbo that produced 450 bhp.

Now, we're regularly seeing over 150bhp a litre in stock cars, and it will get higher. The little ecoboost engine in the Fords, 1.0l I3 turbo, is known to give a reliable 150bhp, and can pump up to 210.

Engines have come on so much in the past 20 years.

[Gibbon]

What is a good car to replace my mobile banknote incinerator? It needs to cruise comfortably on the motorway and around town & cope occasionally with a family of 4. It needs to burn petrol instead of £20 notes, and preferably not too much of it.

Given your requirements:

VW Passat 1.4 TSI (122bhp)

I got one at 36 mnths, 24K for 7K, the equiv diesel was 11K!

Now at 76K and no had trouble, avg 40 - 42 mpg.

Not exciting, but reassuringly reliable and function and so fecking cheap!

[sasguru]

What about a Skoda Octavia VRS? : reliable, practical, fast, loads of cheap used ones as new model has just come out.

[doodab]

Given your requirements:

VW Passat 1.4 TSI (122bhp)

I got one at 36 mnths, 24K for 7K, the equiv diesel was 11K!

Now at 76K and no had trouble, avg 40 - 42 mpg.

Not exciting, but reassuringly reliable and function and so fecking cheap!

I think I might want a slightly more powerful one. But not a bad idea. Skoda also.

[Old Hack]

I think I might want a slightly more powerful one. But not a bad idea. Skoda also.

I am telling you, Skoda superb is the way forward. Get a 2.0Tdi and you'll never look back.

[Gibbon]

I think I might want a slightly more powerful one. But not a bad idea. Skoda also.

They do a 1.8 TSI as well. Must say I prefer gong back to petrol after having oil burners for so long. When I drive the wife's diesel Audi I keep thinking the fecker has stalled.

[gingerjedi]

They do a 1.8 TSI as well. Must say I prefer gong back to petrol after having oil burners for so long. When I drive the wife's diesel Audi I keep thinking the fecker has stalled.

I've been looking them but there's hardly any about on the used market, I was specifically looking for a 2.0 TSI.

[DimPrawn]

Or......

Used Volkswagen Phaeton 3.0 V6 TDi (V6 TDi 233 4Motion) for sale - PistonHeads (Ref 1431332)


Done 34K miles.