WTF. C4 to broadcast daily Muslim call to prayer during Ramadan next month

[d000hg]

My point, you imbecile, is that what religion you are is culture/geographic specific originally

No it isn't. You are confusing culture with religion. What you're describing is at best nominal religion, i.e. stuff you are told as a kid and accept because you have no reason to doubt it, but don't actually have a strong personal belief in.

[d000hg]

Because God is illiterate?
Honestly you couldn't make this cretinism up.

You're not making a lick of sense. The bible claims to be people writing down true events that have happened (as does the Torah, Koran, etc). Why does the fact it is written by people automatically invalidate it? Every history book in the world does the same thing.

What are you claiming, that if God was real it would only count if He wrote the bible himself as an autobiography? What a narrow view you have. Typical math-nerd.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

You're not making a lick of sense. The bible claims to be people writing down true events that have happened (as does the Torah, Koran, etc). Why does the fact it is written by people automatically invalidate it? Every history book in the world does the same thing.

What are you claiming, that if God was real it would only count if He wrote the bible himself as an autobiography? What a narrow view you have. Typical math-nerd.

Channel 4 are right to broadcast the Muslim call to prayer

great article on the subject. Key point:

All we here about Islam and Muslims is terrorism and the politicalisation of the religion. How about showing a different side i.e. the spiritual and calm side.... Who knows it might even persuade the nutters to abandon their extreme ideologies when they realise the core of every religion is about improving oneself and connecting with the creator.....

[sasguru]

You're not making a lick of sense. The bible claims to be people writing down true events that have happened (as does the Torah, Koran, etc). Why does the fact it is written by people automatically invalidate it? Every history book in the world does the same thing.

What are you claiming, that if God was real it would only count if He wrote the bible himself as an autobiography? What a narrow view you have. Typical math-nerd.

I'm not making a lick of sense?
I'm simply asking why God doesn't write his book himself.
It's the sort of simple question that has you religious types tying yourself up in knots try to explain the unexplainable.


I'll leave you to post your endless bollux now.

[suityou01]

Because God is illiterate?
Honestly you couldn't make this cretinism up.

WSGS

He can make the universe, earth and all the people in it, but can't print out the instruction manual?

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I'm not making a lick of sense?
I'm simply asking why God doesn't write his book himself.
It's the sort of simple question that has you religious types tying yourself up in knots try to explain the unexplainable.


I'll leave you to post your endless bollux now.

A non-mocking answer:

I think the idea of religion is to test mankind that is to test if they believe (provided the arguments are truthful ones). If you look at the lives of prophets and saints you will find they were truthful individuals who lived praiseworthy lives, hence the message they came with is at least worth investigating.

[Mich the Tester]

WSGS

He can make the universe, earth and all the people in it, but can't print out the instruction manual?

Sounds a bit like IBM.

[KaiserWilly]

Liberal posturing and the price of migration

By Daily Mail Comment

PUBLISHED: 22:15 GMT, 2 July 2013 | UPDATED: 22:15 GMT, 2 July 2013

Two startling sets of figures this week expose the phenomenal impact of mass, unrestricted immigration on the social fabric of Britain.

The first, from the Department for Education, showed more than a million schoolchildren – up by 250,000 in the past five years alone – speak a language other than English as their mother tongue, while nearly three in 10 primary school pupils belong to ethnic minorities.

Now the Office for National Statistics reports that immigrants make up a quarter of the population of Britain’s biggest cities (well over a third in London), while in nine per cent of homes, nobody speaks English as a main language.

Meanwhile, the proportion of non-white residents of our four largest conurbations has officially risen above 30 per cent – almost certainly an underestimate, since the figures come from the 2011 census, which many illegal immigrants will not have returned.

This paper has always acknowledged the huge economic contribution made by new arrivals prepared to work long hours for low wages in jobs many Britons will not do. Just as important is our long history of cultural enrichment by migrants who have fought to integrate.

But mass immigration has a social price, which goes beyond even the immense pressure of numbers on our overstretched infrastructure and services.


How are teachers expected to teach – and children, from any ethnic background, to learn – when a million pupils are not fluent in English?

Or take employment. Isn’t it economic madness to go on shelling out benefits to able-bodied Britons, while new jobs go to immigrants (many of whom send their wages to families abroad)?

Civil liberties suffer, too. For the less integrated a society, the more authoritarian a government must be to maintain order.

Consider the friction over police stop and search powers. Or the moves towards state snooping and secret justice, in the name of combating Muslim extremism. Or the increasingly oppressive weight of politically correct laws to punish inter-community prejudice.


All these problems have been forced on an unwilling country by a conspiracy of the bien-pensant, parading their liberal consciences like the show-offs at Channel 4 who plan to broadcast Muslim calls to prayer throughout Ramadan as an act of ‘deliberate provocation’.

True, the Coalition boasts it has cut net immigration by a third. But still half a million arrived last year.

And as with the national debt, so with the numbers of foreigners in Britain: though the annual deficit and net immigration figures edge downwards, the accumulated totals inexorably rise.

Meanwhile, this painfully slow progress could be wiped out at a stroke after January 1, when we open our borders to migrants from Romania and Bulgaria.

With our social cohesion at stake, the case for defying the EU and maintaining restrictions is now unanswerable.

Read more: DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Liberal posturing and the price of migration | Mail Online
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[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Liberal posturing and the price of migration

By Daily Mail Comment

PUBLISHED: 22:15 GMT, 2 July 2013 | UPDATED: 22:15 GMT, 2 July 2013

Two startling sets of figures this week expose the phenomenal impact of mass, unrestricted immigration on the social fabric of Britain.

The first, from the Department for Education, showed more than a million schoolchildren – up by 250,000 in the past five years alone – speak a language other than English as their mother tongue, while nearly three in 10 primary school pupils belong to ethnic minorities.

Now the Office for National Statistics reports that immigrants make up a quarter of the population of Britain’s biggest cities (well over a third in London), while in nine per cent of homes, nobody speaks English as a main language.

Meanwhile, the proportion of non-white residents of our four largest conurbations has officially risen above 30 per cent – almost certainly an underestimate, since the figures come from the 2011 census, which many illegal immigrants will not have returned.

This paper has always acknowledged the huge economic contribution made by new arrivals prepared to work long hours for low wages in jobs many Britons will not do. Just as important is our long history of cultural enrichment by migrants who have fought to integrate.

But mass immigration has a social price, which goes beyond even the immense pressure of numbers on our overstretched infrastructure and services.


How are teachers expected to teach – and children, from any ethnic background, to learn – when a million pupils are not fluent in English?

Or take employment. Isn’t it economic madness to go on shelling out benefits to able-bodied Britons, while new jobs go to immigrants (many of whom send their wages to families abroad)?

Civil liberties suffer, too. For the less integrated a society, the more authoritarian a government must be to maintain order.

Consider the friction over police stop and search powers. Or the moves towards state snooping and secret justice, in the name of combating Muslim extremism. Or the increasingly oppressive weight of politically correct laws to punish inter-community prejudice.


All these problems have been forced on an unwilling country by a conspiracy of the bien-pensant, parading their liberal consciences like the show-offs at Channel 4 who plan to broadcast Muslim calls to prayer throughout Ramadan as an act of ‘deliberate provocation’.

True, the Coalition boasts it has cut net immigration by a third. But still half a million arrived last year.

And as with the national debt, so with the numbers of foreigners in Britain: though the annual deficit and net immigration figures edge downwards, the accumulated totals inexorably rise.

Meanwhile, this painfully slow progress could be wiped out at a stroke after January 1, when we open our borders to migrants from Romania and Bulgaria.

With our social cohesion at stake, the case for defying the EU and maintaining restrictions is now unanswerable.

Read more: DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Liberal posturing and the price of migration | Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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