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    #31
    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    Kant had some worthwhile things to say about reason and the limits of reason, but that might be a bit difficult for those who are still struggling with the Mr Men books.
    The Mr. Men books still exist? I would have thought that the 'lefties' would have got that changed by now. Is there a transgender series?
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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      #32
      Originally posted by proggy View Post
      Rational thinking and scientific methods have enabled us to fly airplanes, build computers go into space, cure many diseases. None of these things came from religion despite its outrageous claims.
      Scientific method has indeed done greate things for humanity.

      However, Christ's last supper was the inspiration for Da Vinci's Last Supper. The death of Christ inspired Bach's Matthew Passion, the Christian concepts of Heaven and Hell inspired Hieronymous Bosch's work. Christian ideas about punishment and retribution inspired Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment. OK so those guys might have been good without the religious themes, but these are some pretty impressive artworks with largely religious inspiration that can give quite some insight into the human condition.

      Technology is not everything.
      Last edited by Mich the Tester; 22 May 2013, 12:06.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #33
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        Scientific method has indeed done greate things for humanity.

        However, Christ's last supper was the inspiration for Da Vinci's Last Supper. The death of Christ inspired Bach's Matthew Passion, the Christian concepts of Heaven and Hell inspired Hieronymous Bosch's work. Christian ideas about punishment and retribution inspired Tolstoy's Crime and Punishment. OK so those guys might have been good without the religious themes, but these are some pretty impressive artworks with largely religious inspiration that can give quite some insight into the human condition.

        Technology is not everything.
        The only reason they works where religious is because most of them were commissioned by the church. I think some religious inspired art is very nice, however it doesn't mean God exists.

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          #34
          Originally posted by proggy View Post
          Yes because scientific rational experiments can confirm Mathematical concepts/identities are valid.
          Ok, so not only do you know nothing of history, you also are ignorant of the scientific method, science in general and mathematics.
          Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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            #35
            Originally posted by proggy View Post
            Yeah, but instead they pollute the earth with their insane ramblings and brainwash their children/family/friends with same garbage. If we had ditched religion 1800 years ago we would much more advanced and more peaceful.
            For once I agree with you! (Oh, was there a touch of snark? Pity!)

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              #36
              Originally posted by proggy View Post
              The only reason they works where religious is because most of them were commissioned by the church. I think some religious inspired art is very nice, however it doesn't mean God exists.
              Did I say God exists? No. Oh, and Bach didn't just write religious works because he was commissioned by the church. He was one of those 'irrational' believers. Sorry, my mistake, it was Dostoyevsky who wrote Crime and Punishment; temporary mental blip there. He wasn't commissioned by the church either.

              I'd suggest that the 'religious inspired art' I've named is a lot more important than just 'nice'.
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #37
                Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                Did I say God exists? No. Oh, and Bach didn't just write religious works because he was commissioned by the church. He was one of those 'irrational' believers. Sorry, my mistake, it was Dostoyevsky who wrote Crime and Punishment; temporary mental blip there. He wasn't commissioned by the church either.

                I'd suggest that the 'religious inspired art' I've named is a lot more important than just 'nice'.
                If you don't believe in God then its all based on fiction? The problem is many people were also tortured/killed in the name of this fiction and it retarded human intellect for many centuries (which it still seems to be doing looking at some posters here).

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by proggy View Post
                  The only reason they works where religious is because most of them were commissioned by the church. I think some religious inspired art is very nice, however it doesn't mean God exists.
                  And ignorant of art and literature. I think you've covered everything now. Is there anything about which you're not ignorant?
                  Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                    #39
                    Rational thinking and scientific methods have enabled us to fly airplanes, build computers go into space, cure many diseases. None of these things came from religion despite its outrageous claims.
                    The science of medicine is science. But the motivation for people to want to help the suffering is often based on religion - not exclusively of course but looking back in history especially, it's pretty common.
                    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                    Originally posted by vetran
                    Urine is quite nourishing

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                      And ignorant of art and literature. I think you've covered everything now. Is there anything about which you're not ignorant?
                      Coming from someone who thinks homosexuals choose to be gay. I'll let the reader make up their minds who is ignorant.

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