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    #91
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    No longer a wasted Vote
    Yes it is. If the results were repeated across the nation during a general election, UKIP would have no MPs.

    As you were.
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #92
      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
      There are two very good reasons for voting for UKIP

      Our own elitist cretins hate them:

      SASGuru
      Darmstadt


      At least I'm not a brain dead moron unable to think for themselves, blinded by their own ignorance, sadly...
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #93
        Originally posted by sasguru View Post
        ... the demographic upon which UKIP relies for its votes is dying out.
        I'm not so sure about that sas.

        If you mean the middle-aged and the old, don't forget they are continually being replaced by the next generation, and UKIP's vote is going up not down.

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          #94
          History Repeating

          Remember that there was once an alternative to the Labour party with the Social Democrats and many people voted for them as a protest vote but it didn't do too much good. They merged with the Liberals and look at them now. Maybe the Tories will decide to embrace the Ukip, much like the BNP have now done, and a new right wing party will be born, how about 'The National Conservatives?'
          Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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            #95
            Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
            Never underestimate the power of stupid people in groups, thats how governments get elected
            “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”
            —Winston Churchill
            Most voters are not stupid. However, they are overwhelmed by their own lives, often uneducated on public issues and misinformed by an increasingly biased and malevolent media. Hence, the substance that formed Churchill’s opinion.

            The result is that elections are often determined at an emotional level, not factual discourse and reasoned analysis. In short, the real problem lies in the inability of the electorate to distinguish between true and false messaging, and fact and opinion.
            Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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              #96
              Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
              Most voters are not stupid. However, they are overwhelmed by their own lives, often uneducated on public issues and misinformed by an increasingly biased and malevolent media. Hence, the substance that formed Churchill’s opinion.

              The result is that elections are often determined at an emotional level, not factual discourse and reasoned analysis. In short, the real problem lies in the inability of the electorate to distinguish between true and false messaging, and fact and opinion.
              whs
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #97
                Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                elections are often determined at an emotional level, not factual discourse and reasoned analysis. In short, the real problem lies in the inability of the electorate to distinguish between true and false messaging, and fact and opinion.
                If policy making were a simple matter of reasoned analysis then we would have no need of elections, or to determine the 'will of the people', we could just leave it to the civil servants to do the right thing. Elections are decided by appeal to the emotions of the voters because reasoned analysis and factual discourse alone cannot produce a definitive answer to most of the questions those running the country need to answer. Humans are emotional creatures, we can't expect society to function without accounting for that.
                While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by doodab View Post
                  If policy making were a simple matter of reasoned analysis then we would have no need of elections, or to determine the 'will of the people', we could just leave it to the civil servants to do the right thing. Elections are decided by appeal to the emotions of the voters because reasoned analysis and factual discourse alone cannot produce a definitive answer to most of the questions those running the country need to answer. Humans are emotional creatures, we can't expect society to function without accounting for that.
                  I disagree. Policies are based not on a logical set of 'one size fits all' logic. Society as a whole is different. People's views are different. Elections are decided to appeal to the concept of individuality and that you have choice to vote for people who share your views. Society does not lead to a simple binary set of policies.
                  What happens in General, stays in General.
                  You know what they say about assumptions!

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                    At least I'm not a brain dead moron unable to think for themselves, blinded by their own ignorance, sadly...
                    Which is exactly what the ruling elite think of the electorate, and as such is driving so many people to UKIP
                    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                      Only unused votes really get wasted.

                      UKIP got good result and even if they can't get MPs with this more people look at them now and it will only be enough for many to believe they can upset ConLabLibs - Cameron can be counted on doing something really stupid, and Miliband is unlikely to do something smart.

                      UKIP can fook up in style though with some stupid comments that can totally ruin their chances. I'd bet on that.

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