BN66/S58 update

[d000hg]

Actually he was clearly, and deliberately, apolitical. The small fact that socialism didn't exist 2000 years ago would also be a spanner in the works of your argument.

[TalkingCheese]

Ok, so following your logic then programmers should write software without any security holes and it's their fault if they create security holes that hackers can take advantage of to steal money - hackers are therefore completely immune?...

No, but take this scenario:
1. programmer writes code with security hole
2. during testing they find the bug and publicly debate it
3. they decide not to fix it
4. it is declassified as a bug and classed a feature
5. it is publicised in the professional press and put in the user manual
6. people make use of the feature
7. some of them are written letters asking to explain their use of it but after explanation the use is further validated
8. many others utilising the feature are ignored (even though they fully declared its use)
9. 21 years later the project team decides to reclassify the feature as a bug
10. the team mislead parliament (by declaring 1. and 6. above only, purposely ignoring the others and saying they always meant it to be a bug) persuading them to change the law retrospectively so that those who used the feature will owe an exceptional amount of money
11. people lose their livelihoods/lives as a result

... slightly different picture.

[shaunbhoy]

No, but take this scenario:
1. programmer writes code with security hole
2. during testing they find the bug and publicly debate it
3. they decide not to fix it
4. it is declassified as a bug and classed a feature
5. it is publicised in the professional press and put in the user manual
6. people make use of the feature
7. some of them are written letters asking to explain their use of it but after explanation the use is further validated
8. many others utilising the bug are ignored (even though they fully declared its use)
9. 21 years later the project team decides to reclassify the feature as a bug
10. the team mislead parliament (by declaring 1. and 6. above only, purposely ignoring the others and saying they always meant it to be a bug) persuading them to change the law retrospectively so that those who used the feature will owe an exceptional amount of money
11. people lose their livelihoods/lives as a result

... slightly different picture.

This must be a Microsoft Programmer then?

[d000hg]

I don't think they had spanners then either.

Fine, a stick.

[Old Hack]

Actually he was clearly, and deliberately, apolitical. The small fact that socialism didn't exist 2000 years ago would also be a spanner in the works of your argument.

No, what puts a spanner in the argument is that HE CLEARLY DOESN'T/DIDN'T EXIST you stupid man.

[proggy]

No, what puts a spanner in the argument is that HE CLEARLY DOESN'T/DIDN'T EXIST you stupid man.

If we are talking about Jesus, there is evidence he did exists, but 0 evidence he did any of the supernatural things the New Testament describes. i.e. he was a philosopher who's story was used by the Church and turned into a God.

[shaunbhoy]

If we are talking about Jesus, there is evidence he did exists, but 0 evidence he did any of the supernatural things the New Testament describes. i.e. he was a philosopher who's story was used by the Church and turned into a God.

So OH would be half-right. What one might expect from a half-wit then!

[ZARDOZ]

Actually he was clearly, and deliberately, apolitical. The small fact that socialism didn't exist 2000 years ago would also be a spanner in the works of your argument.

It's easier for a Camel to pass through the eye of a Needle than for a Rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

[Old Hack]

If we are talking about Jesus, there is evidence he did exists, but 0 evidence he did any of the supernatural things the New Testament describes. i.e. he was a philosopher who's story was used by the Church and turned into a God.

All bollocks, like fat boy. No evidence at all he existed, but plenty that there was a man who wondered about making tulip out of wood...

Fat boy, you not doing this ironing again are you, liek, following me about

You couldn't be more stupid if you were Scottish.

Oh, hang on.

[proggy]

It's easier for a Camel to pass through the eye of a Needle than for a Rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

I think that's true, because Heaven doesn't exist! Maybe Jesus was dropping hints it was all BS!