The oncoming wave - we have no idea

[alreadypacked]

^WHS and if there are already 10's or 100's of applicants per job, how is it going to help with more people flooding into the country looking for jobs?

At present they're currently looking at tightening up immigration here in Switzerland as it's big concern

In Switzerland, they will not issue a visa if the wage is too low.

Visa is to import experts to do works locals can't do, if you are not paid a high wage, you can't be an expert.

[DodgyAgent]

[QUOTE=alreadypacked;1717152 if you are not paid a high wage, you can't be an expert.[/QUOTE]

Unless your name is Milanbenes

[Project Monkey]

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[Doggy Styles]

Unless your name is Milanbenes

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[The Spartan]

In Switzerland, they will not issue a visa if the wage is too low.

Visa is to import experts to do works locals can't do, if you are not paid a high wage, you can't be an expert.

So how would that explain all the cleaners and kitchen staff in my building who aren't what I class as experts or very highly paid by all accounts and yes they're not locals

[vetran]

Claimant count fell,

Responding, Labour's shadow work and pensions secretary Liam Byrne said: "People have now taken an average £1,200 pay cut since the election because jobs are so hard to come by and today we see there's still more than five people chasing every vacancy.

"Youth unemployment has risen yet again, back towards the million mark, the number of women out of work has gone up and long-term unemployment is still far too high."

Youth unemployment - those aged between 16 and 24 - was 974,000, or 20.8%. That is up from 957,000, or 20.5%, in the three months to November.

of course this might have an effect

Exclusive: Osborne’s jobless recovery » Spectator Blogs


Which do you hire - Young highly skilled & qualified migrants willing to work for minimum wage or the drop outs from the local comprehensive wanting to earn £20k to compete with benefits?

[xoggoth]

If you scroll down to the graph you'll see unemployment was consistently falling through the Labour years of mass immigration

It is perfectly correct that immigration does not impact jobs the way some imagine because it is essentially grafting another economy onto ours. Migrants supply services needed by migrants, migrants work in businesses created by migrants, migrants build houses needed by migrants etc, etc.

However, what mass immigration does not do is anything at all for the existing citizens of this country. It may grow the GDP but it does not do what matters, grow the GDP per capita. The impact in terms of pressure on our land, housing, schools, infrastructure etc is colossal and wholly negative.

[VectraMan]

However, what mass immigration does not do is anything at all for the existing citizens of this country. It may grow the GDP but it does not do what matters, grow the GDP per capita.

File:GDP per capita big four Western Europe.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2004 is when Poland joined the EU. Note the effect on the above graph to the GDP per capita caused by a million poles turning up.

[xoggoth]

Young highly skilled & qualified migrants willing to work for minimum wage or the drop outs from the local comprehensive wanting to earn £20k to compete with benefits?

Definitely the latter. What are you going to do when these marvellous migrants have themselves picked up the same lax attitudes, import yet more? It may not take too long, if you look at the facts on educational achievement and employment, the worst performers are migrants or descendants of recent migrants - major groups include Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and blacks. Eastern European children in our schools achieve slightly less than white Brits too.

Instead of this quick "fix" that isn't actually a fix at all, we need to start forcing attitudes to change in this country with proper education and by restoring incentives. Society should not support those who are unwilling to contribute in proportion to their ability. Adults make their own choices, any who are able to work but will not do so should have no support from the state whatever.

[OwlHoot]

It is perfectly correct that immigration does not impact jobs the way some imagine because it is essentially grafting another economy onto ours. Migrants supply services needed by migrants, migrants work in businesses created by migrants, migrants build houses needed by migrants etc, etc.

However, what mass immigration does not do is anything at all for the existing citizens of this country. It may grow the GDP but it does not do what matters, grow the GDP per capita. The impact in terms of pressure on our land, housing, schools, infrastructure etc is colossal and wholly negative.

There's also a drain on our economy as immigrants send some of their money back home at no benefit to anyone or anything in the UK.

(Any British person who takes a holiday abroad is doing the same thing, and probably spending as much on one holiday as an immigrant can repatriate in a year. But all the same the latter just adds to the total.)