lets welcome more indian nationals into the country to work in tech business

[eek]

How is the ICT system being abused anyway exactly?

By advertising a contract at a rate well below market rate and using the lack of response as an excuse to bring someone in.
By advertising a contract at a rate well below market rate, ignoring the applicants and using the lack of qualified response to bring someone in.
By creating a contract with specifications that cannt be met (well below market rate) and using the lack of response to bring someone in.

Need I go on.

[northernladuk]

Not really, that'll just boost our exports, (or it would have done if labour hadn't destroyed our exports).

How is sending money via bank trasfer to India boosing exports?????

[Robinho]

How is sending money via bank trasfer to India boosing exports?????

It weakens the pound.

[DodgyAgent]

How is the ICT system being abused anyway exactly?

I assumed by open borders you meant the whole world would have open borders btw.

To repeat my point.

The ICT system is being abused and it presents unfair competition. It is a corrupt abuse of something that is designed to help companies to establish and develop their businesses abroad. For example an American company may want to bring someone to the UK to train their UK workers in the processes of the main company. An Indian company may want to send a business development person to the Uk or even send some developers to meet clients in order that they can understand requirements for offshoring projects.

What is happening is that companies are using the ICT to bring low cost workers to the UK to compete with UK based roles under the guise of working on offshore projects.

This means that UK workers are being priced out of jobs by people brought here illegally who probably do not even pay tax in the UK. Government turn a blind eye to it because every large corporate is doing it.

It is one thing for Polish workers coming to the UK and undercutting British workers (we are part of the EU and legally signed up) but is an entirely different matter with ICT workers.


Well why not open up all borders because according to your argument such an action is "a good thing"

[Robinho]

By advertising a contract at a rate well below market rate and using the lack of response as an excuse to bring someone in.
By advertising a contract at a rate well below market rate, ignoring the applicants and using the lack of qualified response to bring someone in.
By creating a contract with specifications that cannt be met (well below market rate) and using the lack of response to bring someone in.

Need I go on.

Ok, well you could argue that's abusing, but to me it sounds like a stupid bureaucratic system anyway.

[Robinho]

Dodgy you're starting to argue a lot like SAS or Mitch the testicle now.

I thought you were pro free market?

As an example, how well do you think the UK would function if people had to get visa to work in other counties or were restricted to working only in their own county.

[Mich the Tester]

I believe in a visa auction, merely to keep some level of UK cultural identity as well as keep the population in check.

Why shouldn't UK cultural identity compete on a free market for cultural identities? Isn't it strong enough to compete? If someone in the UK chooses to take on a Peruvian 'cultural identity', who are you to stop him?

This looks like protectionism.

[DodgyAgent]

Ok, well you could argue that's abusing, but to me it sounds like a stupid bureaucratic system anyway.

You seem to be afflicted with the "binary" view on everything. Something is either right or it is wrong in your eyes and if something gets thrown into an argument that contradicts the "rightness" of your opinion it is discarded by a cliche. I presume you have no managerial or strategic responsibility in your job

[Robinho]

You seem to be afflicted with the "binary" view on everything. Something is either right or it is wrong in your eyes and if something gets thrown into an argument that contradicts the "rightness" of your opinion it is discarded by a cliche. I presume you have no managerial or strategic responsibility in your job

You don't like central planning right?

So why do you believe in the central planning of visas?

Wouldn't it be better to let the pricing mechanism decide who gets the visas?

Why yes, yes it would.

[SAPABAPLeeds]

It weakens the pound.

Sounds a bit like - The "imaginary" doctor who wanted to better his practice went around masked with a pole, to break a few legs in the night......