Reasonable comment or Misogynistic madness?

[jmo21]

If there is a clear "no", then it is rape.

It seems some are suggesting there should be different levels of sentence depending on whether it is a pre-meditated attack in a park, or a woman changing her mind after an otherwise normal lead up to sex.

I disagree.

Muddying the waters with what a woman wears, the bloke was drunk etc, is wrong.

She doesn't want it in. But, but she did, but, but I was drunk.... is not an excuse.

[darmstadt]

That wouldn't work. Gay men generally have a much better dress sense

Damn, I must be gay then

[d000hg]

If there is a clear "no", then it is rape.

It seems some are suggesting there should be different levels of sentence depending on whether it is a pre-meditated attack in a park, or a woman changing her mind after an otherwise normal lead up to sex.

I disagree.

So a pre-meditated murder is exactly the same as walking in on your wife sucking off another guy and bashing him over the head with something?

[formant]

For those buying into the MP's babble about it being irresponsible if your outfit prevents you from running away -

would you say that a guy wearing this sort of thing



bears some responsibility when he can't get away quickly enough from being mugged/beaten up/stabbed?

Or did that not cross your minds? It probably didn't because nobody applies that rationale to men.

Of course this sort of outfit



should be pretty ideal for running away on the other hand. So is that fine then?


The 'running away' thing is a BS point anyway. In most circumstances, when you get attacked out of the blue you generally freeze long enough for all your self-defence and escape plans to become pretty useless.

[vetran]

For those buying into the MP's babble about it being irresponsible if your outfit prevents you from running away -

would you say that a guy wearing this sort of thing



bears some responsibility when he can't get away quickly enough from being mugged/beaten up/stabbed?

Yep, its darwinism in action, you dress like a prison inmate, you get shivved. They don't look hard they look silly.

If you combined that with being rolling drunk and flashing your cash then you have an almost perfect male analogy.

The 'running away' thing is a BS point anyway. In most circumstances, when you get attacked out of the blue you generally freeze long enough for all your self-defence and escape plans to become pretty useless.

Strange in many of the life threatening situations my mouth has got me into, running was sometimes the only choice, despite being a little lardy I managed to run away.

[d000hg]

Running away isn't the issue, getting yourself targeted in the first place is. The best fight is one you never get into.