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Originally posted by formant View PostThe current points-based and employer-sponsored visa-system is already heavily skewed towards skilled workers - there's no such thing as simply letting just anyone in.
Originally posted by formant View PostWhat you don't want is EU freeflow migration. Subject all EU citizens to current visa regulations and you'll find there'll be no need to also add an auction system.
Originally posted by formant View PostBut that means leaving the EU, which to people like you seems like a brilliant idea.
Well, it's only that if you disregard a whole lot of other issues an EU exit would bring about, such as the reintroduction of customs duties.
Switzerland does just fine, no reason why we can't.
The EU has long overgrown it's purpose.
Anyway we're (you're) drifting from the point now.
But at least you have stopped arguing against the system now and are instead arguing about EU in or out, so i will take that as a sign that you have accepted the auction system is sound.Comment
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Originally posted by Robinho View PostThere's no reason why we'd have to reintroduce duties.
Originally posted by Robinho View PostSwitzerland does just fine, no reason why we can't.
Originally posted by Robinho View PostBut at least you have stopped arguing against the system now and are instead arguing about EU in or out, so i will take that as a sign that you have accepted the auction system is sound.Comment
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Originally posted by RasputinDude View PostAh well, if they are losing out, all they need to do is re-train or re-locate to increase their income. Is that not so?Comment
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Originally posted by formant View Post"We" wouldn't. The countries that "we" would p-iss off with the costly legal hassle of setting a so far non-existent precedent of leaving the EU - yeah, they probably would.
Originally posted by formant View PostSee above. If you assume that we can "just" leave the EU and "simply" become part of the EEA, feel free, but that's just not how these things work.
Never the less, the above is drifting from the point as i have already mentioned.
Originally posted by formant View PostIf that would finally make you shut up, assume away. Add that to your long list of delusions and enjoy the thought.Comment
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Originally posted by Robinho View PostI doubt they'd really care that much if we left, and i doubt they'd want to restrict trade between them and the 5th largest economy.
There's no reason why we can't leave, and there's no reason why we can't join the EEA.
Originally posted by Robinho View PostI've been pretty patient to explain all the mechanics now and i've been pretty patient to answer all your objection. It would be nice if you just conceded that it's not a bad idea.Last edited by formant; 14 January 2013, 17:40.Comment
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There's no way in hell it'd take 10 years to leave the EU, that is a truly ridiculous statement and i can't honestly believe you have seriously suggested that.
But once again, the EU argument is irrelevent. And i would only really condone leaving the EU if we actually implemented a few policies to make this country competitive again, which we are currently restricted from doing but given our clueless leaders/electorate, we won't anyway.
I never said we have an immigration problem (there you go putting words in my mouth again). I said we have a potential population problem. We have far more immigration than Germany btw (more than 3 times the amount per capita).Last edited by Robinho; 14 January 2013, 18:13.Comment
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Originally posted by Robinho View PostThere's no way in hell it'd take 10 years to leave the EU, that is a truly ridiculous statement and i can't honestly believe you have seriously suggested that.
But once again, the EU argument is irrelevent. And i would only really condone leaving the EU if we actually implemented a few policies to make this country competitive again, which we are currently restricted from doing but given our clueless leaders/electorate, we won't anyway.
I never said we have an immigration problem (there you go putting words in my mouth again). I said we have a potential population problem. We have far more immigration than Germany btw (more than 3 times the amount per capita).
How much do Norway and Switzerland pay for not being in the EU?
Why do lots of Norwegian companies ensure they have an office somewhere like Sweden?
Why do car manufacturers like the UK?"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by Robinho View PostGreenland and Algeria if you must know.Comment
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