White British minority in "vibrant" and "diverse" London

[vetran]

Most would probably apply, but surely the relevant question is, are they significantly more of each than the indigenous population?

That I would suggest depends according to source country.

Germany - Probably highly qualified.
Bangladesh - probably not.
Poland / eastern Europe - Originally yes, but I suspect the quality is going down as the rest of the population realise its a good thing.

As Xoggy said we don't need any more average.

[minestrone]

There are schools where hardly any of the kids speak English as a first language. It was too much too soon in the last 15 years and there are a lot of problems now.

Also immigration in the 50s was done from the colonies, many would have seen themselves as children of the British Empire, same with the 1980 1990s influx from Hong Kong where we picked the best of the bunch to take with us. That is not the case now.

[formant]

Not to mention the conflicts which inevitably arise when people have entirely different ideas about what is acceptable, what taxpayers money should be spent on and what the future direction of society should be.

Oh, you mean like the existing tension between, say, the political right- and left-wing side of the population?
Because, you know, you've got vastly different opinions on all those matters already, no immigrants necessary.
Keeps the country balanced. Keeps things from slipping dangerously far into either direction.

[formant]

See previous suggestion about visa auction. Setting up a system where a finite amount of visa are auctioned to the highest bidders will ensure the people who come here will be the ones that intend to be the most productive.

Or the most corrupt. Obtaining a one-off lump sum of money guarantees f-all.

[sasguru]

Most would probably apply, but surely the relevant question is, are they significantly more of each than the indigenous population?

If they were on average only about the same then, although they may be adding to GDP they obviously cannot be adding to what matters, the GDP per capita. You do not raise any average with yet more average. What is the point of a skilled doctor if you also bring in a lot of people who need the full time services of a doctor? Where is any advantage for us that outweighs the huge problems this increase in population causes, pressure on land, schools, housing and infrastructure?

Not to mention the conflicts which inevitably arise when people have entirely different ideas about what is acceptable, what taxpayers money should be spent on and what the future direction of society should be.

I prefer data to waffle, so I looked it up.
There are some sources here that suggest:

"South Asians are said to contribute 6% to the UK GDP, whilst making up only 4% of the population.[24][25] Other sources state that the figure may be even higher - the Centre for Social Markets estimates that British Asian businesses contribute as much as 10% of total GDP.[26]"

Coulddn't find figures for other ethnic minorities, but I'm guessing the Chinese are net contributors too, while other groups are net takers.

[Robinho]

Or the most corrupt. Obtaining a one-off lump sum of money guarantees f-all.

Thankfully there's a system of law for dealing with corruption, often referred to as the "legal system".

[sasguru]

Thankfully there's a system of law for dealing with corruption, often referred to as the "legal system".

Yes but this wouldn't apply in the countries that the immigrants came from and from which they may have obtained their money illegally.

Doh! if you had a brain you might be dangerous.

[sasguru]

No I live in Slough. We have a large racial mix and some perceptible tension..

Slough is a crap-hole. It attracts the lowest denominator from every ethnic group.
That's why you have the tension.

HTH

[minestrone]

Can we at least all be in agreement that we have to get shot of the Roma.

There is an army of papa lazarous living in one big group not that far away from me. They are an army of criminals.

[formant]

Yes but this wouldn't apply in the countries that the immigrants came from and from which they may have obtained their money illegally.

WHS.

You're going to have a hard time catching the corrupt ones out before they've obtained the visa they paid for. Catching and prosecuting them retrospectively, once they're in, is quite a considerable tax-drain.

That visa-auction idea is a bit ... flawed, to say the least.