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My Sunday school teacher must have missed that bit, which religion do you mean?I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens] -
I'll give you a clue: The religion in question doesn't have a Sunday school.Originally posted by GlenW View Post
I'm assuming MB is alluding to the one where the Prophet married a 9-year-old girl.Comment
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Islam?Originally posted by Batcher View PostI'll give you a clue: The religion in question doesn't have a Sunday school.
I'm assuming MB is alluding to the one where the Prophet married a 9-year-old girl.
I never knew that, 9-year-old?
Best if I keep quiet on this I think.I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]Comment
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You might say that I couldn't possibly commentOriginally posted by Batcher View PostI'll give you a clue: The religion in question doesn't have a Sunday school.
I'm assuming MB is alluding to the one where the Prophet married a 9-year-old girl.Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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I find the idea that you can attach western liberal moral values to another part of the world at the moment utterly stupid yet alone events in another part of the world hundreds of years ago.Originally posted by Batcher View PostI'll give you a clue: The religion in question doesn't have a Sunday school.
I'm assuming MB is alluding to the one where the Prophet married a 9-year-old girl.
What we find right and wrong now isn't the same as 30 years ago within the UK let alone 1000 years ago in a different land...merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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9-years-old! Really?Originally posted by eek View PostI'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]Comment
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Would you marry a 9 year old girlOriginally posted by eek View Post
At what point in the past do you think that was morally right ?Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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She wasn't 6 though, which I suppose is a good thing?Originally posted by GlenW View Post
Furthermore as to the Holy Prophet’s marriage with Sayyidah Aisha, something people will notice is that the completion of the marriage was done when Sayyidah Aisha was 9 years old, not when she was 6, and there is a reason for that. The reason why this happened is because Sayyidah Aisha had been through puberty by the age of 9, and in Islam a female who under-goes puberty is considered a lady and is fit for marriage.
If we read the hadiths, we find that right before Sayyidah Aisha got married off to the Holy Prophet that she was sick and not feeling too well:
Narrated Sayyidah Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.” {Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234}
So as we can see, Sayyidah Aisha got ill and her body was going through some changes, indicating that she was going through her puberty.
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At least Catholic priests have the decency to keep quiet about raping pre-pubescent boys.I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]Comment
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May I suggest you go and look at social history. Marriage (especially for upper classes) was usually for different reasons other than sex.... Marrying someone young would be for political reasons not....Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
Oh and I'm out of this conversation as its clearly about to hit the point when the ban hammer appears..merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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