Here's hoping this finally comes into play

[The Spartan]

It only needs one unplanned pregnancy.

Ok so one unplanned one, pregnancy but if you already have two children what are the chances of that happening? and even so there's the morning after pill, the snip and sterilisation (both provided for on the NHS and of course voluntary)

[speling bee]

CUK is the best contraceptive going

Typical agent, mistaking effect for cause.

[speling bee]

Ok so one unplanned one, pregnancy but if you already have two children what are the chances of that happening? and even so there's the morning after pill, the snip and sterilisation (both provided for on the NHS and of course voluntary)

Abortion will go up. I'm comfortable with that, but there's a nice irony because of the values held by a section of the Tory party.

[The Spartan]

Where did I say I was happy with how things are?

I wonder if limiting number of children would be preferable TBH, in a "never mind freedom" kind of way.

Well I can see you like things to change from one of your previous posts now, it's not limiting it at all it just means you will not receive money from the state for the 3rd child.

[The Spartan]

You're totally out of touch with modern Britain if you really don't think this is an issue. Sadly, because it would be nice if people figured this out!

Of course there's an underlying issue and there's an issue with people having kids for the sake of more benefits and better housing, my cousin is one such example 25 years old has 3 kids, never worked a day in her life, is able to afford to run and maintain a car. Does not live with the father of her children as they claim to be apart so they can get more money from the state.

[d000hg]

Well I can see you like things to change from one of your previous posts now, it's not limiting it at all it just means you will not receive money from the state for the 3rd child.

So then what happens to the 3rd child, or all 3? If the parents don't care enough, we let the kids suffer?

[The Spartan]

So then what happens to the 3rd child, or all 3? If the parents don't care enough, we let the kids suffer?

You would have to make do with the money you already receive, what is your case for making others pay for other peoples children?

Do I think these children will lead stellar lives NO, I am the eldest of 3 children all boys. My mother claimed a multitude of benefits, had free housing and didn't spend one penny of it on us it all went on drink and gambling. Giving more money doesn't solve the problem.

No I don't have a sad story to tell, I used my head like my brothers and got good jobs and as for my cousins they just became the next generation of spongers

[d000hg]

You would have to make do with the money you already receive, what is your case for making others pay for other peoples children?

Then why have benefits at all?

[The Spartan]

Then why have benefits at all?

I've yet to hear your case why hardworking taxpayers should pay for other people to do no work and just have children for benefits and housing

[speling bee]

I've yet to hear your case why hardworking taxpayers should pay for other people to do no work and just have children for benefits and housing

As we are all workshy tax dodgers, what does it have to do with us?