So Lance Armstrong is a liar and a cheat

[Robinho]

Because these days it's felt that it's not good for sports bodies to encourage the use of very nasty substances.

Add to that, it would encourage a return to the days when the GDR, USSR et al ruined people's lives for the sake of medals. For every medal the GDR won, they made several cripples.

Tbf China are probably doing that anyway.

[SueEllen]

Tbf China are probably doing that anyway.

The Chinese don't dope their athletes!

They female swimmers are just faster than men because they have a billion people in the country so have more girls to choose from.

[Mich the Tester]

Tbf China are probably doing that anyway.

The Chinese don't dope their athletes!

They female swimmers are just faster than men because they have a billion people in the country so have more girls to choose from.

The Chinese are doing things that are even worse than doping, particularly among young child gymnasts, who are drilled in boarding schools from age 5 or even less, folded up into ridiculous positions and sat upon by 'coaches', forced to hang by their hands on high bars until muscle failure, which is an extremely painful situation in isometric exercises, and basically forced to endure more pain than most adult athletes would even consider going through. I've done some horrid training sessions in the past; spewing up while being blinded by the sun during an interval sprints session was nothing unusual, but that's as an adult with the choice being my own. Matthew Pinsent did a documentary report on Chinese children in training for gymnastics and he was appalled, and that is a man who has done some really hideous training himself; I found it disgusting to watch and I really question how the IOC can talk of 'Olympic values' when this is going on.

[d000hg]

They talked about this with reference to the diving especially... you basically 'sell' your infant child to be trained full-time. It's clearly a very successful route to go!

It's rather like the premise of Ender's Game...

[doomage]

Yeah, the bastard!

Ooops, thought this post was about the fake moon landings. You know as it seems to be "de rigeur" to have a go at dead blokes I thought I'd join in.

Sorry.

No, you are thinking of Louie Armstrong, the great jazz astronaut.

[Mich the Tester]

No, you are thinking of Louie Armstrong, the great jazz astronaut.

The jazz singer who rode a bike on the moon?

[doomage]

The jazz singer who rode a bike on the moon?

That part was faked, also he was doped to the eyeball at the time.

It's a wonderful world.

[Pondlife]

Well done BBC

The 41-year-old, accused of being "a serial drugs cheat", was in court looking to win a case against an insurance company over bonus payments.

Armstrong stated under oath that he did take any performance-enhancing drugs.

Usada says his statements in court were false and consequently "subject to the penalties of perjury".

Linky

You had ONE job.

[cailin maith]

The jazz singer who rode a bike on the moon?

Neil Diamond was the Jazz singer.

[Mich the Tester]

Neil Diamond was the Jazz singer.

Nonsense. He was crap. Frank Sinatra asked NASA to 'Fly me to the moon', but eventually it was Louis Armstrong that went, and he took his bike with him and told us all the world is wonderful.