Benefit scrounging parasites from Europe

[d000hg]

I'll answer that.
Because if there is a class of people that is not getting employed on a regular basis for whatever reason, society breaks down.

Something I agree with you on for a change, and most succinctly put.

[Robinho]

I'm not sure what your point is, as usual. Your argument is that people made unemployed eventually get redeployed, mine is that, as many communities in the North show, they don't.

Why does that matter though if different people are getting employed elsewhere in the economy keeping the employment rate similar? If you have obsolete skills why do you deserve a job in place of a person with competitive skills?

[sasguru]

I'm not sure what your point is, as usual. Your argument is that people made unemployed eventually get redeployed, mine is that, as many communities in the North show, they don't.

Furthermore many of these people moved onto sickness benefit (as a defnite policy to massage the statistics by both Tory and Labour governments) and therefore don't get counted in the official unemployment stats.

[sasguru]

Why does that matter though if different people are getting employed elsewhere in the economy keeping the employment rate similar? ?

The rate has not been similar. There was a step change in the 80s if you consider all benefits: Unemployment, Disability, Income support etc.

If you have obsolete skills why do you deserve a job in place of a person with competitive skills?

You don't but some countries have very good policies on training to keep their thickos busy. Germany for example. Yet another example where government intervention leads to a more stable society.

[Robinho]

The rate has not been similar. There was a step change in the 80s if you consider all benefits: Unemployment, Disability, Income support etc.

You haven't produced any figures for that period.

Whilst i don't doubt that the gov massages figures, unless you can actually produce some alternative figures then you can't draw any conclusions.

[sasguru]

You haven't produced any figures for that period.

Whilst i don't doubt that the gov massages figures, unless you can actually produce some alternative figures then you can't draw any conclusions.

Economics Essays: Unemployment in the UK

Unemployment first reached 3 million (highest since depression) in the 80s.
It's about that now. There was an artifical boom under Labour. And they fiddled the books as explained above.
But I reckon 3 million roughly, its been since the 80s.

[Robinho]

But I reckon 3 million roughly, its been since the 80s.

"You reckon" doesn't really qualify as figures. There's nothing in this link that conflicts with the figures i mentioned earlier.

[DodgyAgent]

The rate has not been similar. There was a step change in the 80s if you consider all benefits: Unemployment, Disability, Income support etc.



You don't but some countries have very good policies on training to keep their thickos busy. Germany for example. Yet another example where government intervention leads to a more stable society.

Quite

'Back to work' tsar at centre of fraud probe over claims 'funding went on jobs lasting just a day' | Mail Online

[shaunbhoy]

Robby is the reason why parents sacrifice everything for their children's education.

But clearly not HIS parents.

[Robinho]

Haterz gonna hate