Spain OMG!

[SueEllen]

Of course it's waste, people are being paid and not being productive, this is the very essence of waste.

You can actually put skilled employees on shorter hours or make them take time off with no pay.

It's cheaper than sacking people them going to another employer or retiring and then you having to recruit and then train new employees when there is an up turn.

[Robinho]

You can actually put skilled employees on shorter hours or make them take time off with no pay.

It's cheaper than sacking people them going to another employer or retiring and then you having to recruit and then train new employees when there is an up turn.

Well then companies should do that if they feel it is beneficial.

I am against onerous government employment laws. Most terms of a job should simply be written in the contract signed with an employer and they should be as restrictive or loose as the employer or employee care to negotiate.

The only people who should fear the lack of state-imposed labour laws that we have today are the people who are tulip at their jobs.

Trade unions should also have their special rights taken away from them. I'm all for collective bargaining but not collective bargaining with impunity - which isn't really bargaining.

[DodgyAgent]

I'd argue that creating large numbers of unemployed people at the first sniff of a downturn just intensifies it, so "restrictive labour markets" actually act to smooth out ups and downs and reduce the intensity of downturns. I also think that in a high skill high value add economy the need for highly skilled people is more of a constraint on hiring than not being able to get rid of them, in fact getting rid of such people is really a last resort. Better to have flexible working practices like reduced working hours and so on.

and being an employer of staff you would obviously know

[hyperD]

[QUOTE=Paddy;1617131]

That looks like stage blood.

I've seen pictures like that before that were obviously staged for journalists.

Not decrying from the events of the following images though, just pointing out something that doesn't seem genuine in that picture.

Blood tends to accrue a darker maroon tone than that when exposed to air.

[doodab]

The only people who should fear the lack of state-imposed labour laws that we have today are the people who are tulip at their jobs..

That might be true if people who are good at their jobs and the companies they work for didn't need customers. However in reality 50% unemployment does no one any favours.

[doodab]

and being an employer of staff you would obviously know

If i'm honest it's the complexity of the tax system that puts me off. I'd happily get a permie in to do my job for half what i'm paid otherwise.

[Old Hack]

No i'd rather base it on things that happen most of the time.

And now you're putting me on your ignore list because you can't admit i am right. How pathetic.

That's just how d000gh is mate; he dislikes being wrong, so puts you on the ignore list, then snipes at you from afar. He really is that pathetic. I have no one on the ignore list, as I believe I am man enough to deal with twats, or even being wrong. Not d000gh, at the first hint hes in trouble, hes off.

No wonder he got bullied at school

[Old Hack]

If i'm honest it's the complexity of the tax system that puts me off. I'd happily get a permie in to do my job for half what i'm paid otherwise.

Personally, I don't like the ambiguity of it all. Some things you can/might/can't claim for, depending on how strong you put your case. I am told £35 a day, when I am away from home, is an acceptable amount to claim for subsistence and overnight allowance, but another Accountant says no, £25, anotehr says I should receipt it all. I wrote a letter to the tax man asking for his view on me buying a motorhome, to reduce my expenses, the letter I got back, kind of said I can, and said I couldn't, but agreed I should and can.

I wish there were hard and fast rules for what we claim for, but there simply isn't, it's all ambiguous.

I end up canning my company every 3 years and running a fine line.

[sasguru]

Norway is actually the most successful economy in Europe by a considerable margin.

AFAIK they have even more restrictive labour markets than Germany.

[sasguru]

I'm not trolling though, it's basic economic theory.

Aye. Very basic.