Rain, rain, rain

[Old Hack]

It's global warming, see?

record rains in Russia and the UK, extreme heat in the US, etc, etc, etc... No, no climate change there.

[BlasterBates]

record rains in Russia and the UK, extreme heat in the US, etc, etc, etc... No, no climate change there.

That's right:

Heat wave in US, normal

[Old Hack]

That's right:

Heat wave in US, normal

I love this quote the most:

Sure, many high temperature records were broken, but records are always being broken.


"Sure, theres a heatwave on a scale never before seen, sure record rainfall has fallen, sure we're having flooding on a scale hitherto unseen, but records are always being broken, in the same year..."

[BlasterBates]

I love this quote the most:

Sure, many high temperature records were broken, but records are always being broken.


"Sure, theres a heatwave on a scale never before seen, sure record rainfall has fallen, sure we're having flooding on a scale hitherto unseen, but records are always being broken, in the same year..."

No it isn't a heatwave on a scale they've never seen before. There was a worse heatwave in the 1930's. That was the infamous "dustbowl".

People just come out with hysterical statements and everyone latches on. can you imagine if the dustbowl were to reoccur what everyone would be blaming it on.

As for the flooding, scientists have looked at this and concluded the flooding is mainly due to construction i.e. land drainage and removing flood plains.

But then that would just get in the way of the dramatic headlines.

[Old Hack]

No it isn't a heatwave on a scale they've never seen before. There was a worse heatwave in the 1930's. That was the infamous "dustbowl".

People just come out with hysterical statements and everyone latches on. can you imagine if the dustbowl were to reoccur what everyone would be blaming it on.

As for the flooding, scientists have looked at this and concluded the flooding is mainly due to construction i.e. land drainage and removing flood plains.

But then that would just get in the way of the dramatic headlines.

No, it's saying it was higher than in the 30's, hence record high temperatures. ALl it has said about the 30's is the lack of weather stations, not that the 30's were hotter. And also, this was for June. Temps last week were even higher...

He was saying the drought in the 30's was imcomparible. Drought, not heat...

Record rain is nothing to do with land drainage. It's rain, and entirely natural. Flooding comes mainly after rain, not before...

EDIT:

"The last 12 months also have been the warmest since modern record-keeping began in 1895, narrowly beating the previous 12-month period that ended in May 2012."

"Such record-high temperatures are in line with a long-term warming trend in the 48 contiguous states, said Jake Crouch, a scientist at the National Climatic Data Center."

"But it wasn't all dry. Tropical Storm Debby dumped so much rain during its slow pass across Florida that the state's monthly statewide precipitation total for the month was 13.16 inches, or 6.17 inches above average, making it Florida's wettest June on record."

[BlasterBates]

No, it's saying it was higher than in the 30's, hence record high temperatures. ALl it has said about the 30's is the lack of weather stations, not that the 30's were hotter. And also, this was for June. Temps last week were even higher...

He was saying the drought in the 30's was imcomparible. Drought, not heat...

Record rain is nothing to do with land drainage. It's rain, and entirely natural. Flooding comes mainly after rain, not before...

Could you point me to a point in history where no weather records were broken?

Here's a newspaper report from 1921

[Old Hack]

Oh right so let me get this straight, drought as an extreme is "normal", breaking a low temperature record is "normal" (did you know there was a low temperature record set at the South Pole this week?) but a high temperature record is a sure sign of global warming.

If there'd been a record drought no doubt that this would be touted as global warming.

In fact if I remember correctly the record cold temperatures in December 2010 was also due to global warming weren't they.

Climate change, not global warming.

If the jet stream drops a bit more southerly, due to climate change, we will get colder and dryer winters.

So could it get colder in parts, or hotter in others, due to the things that drive our weather changing? tulip yes.

You said:

There was a worse heatwave in the 1930's.

This is wrong. I pointed that out.

Now we're having record heats monitored, record rains, and record flooding.

And this is normal?

No, it isn't, imo.

[Old Hack]

Could you point me to a point in history where no weather records were broken?

Slightly disingenious statement there. We have had the colddest, and warmest temps on record.

We have only really been monitoring weather since the dawn of the industrial age.

It's considered from the industrial age onwards that man made issues was causing global climate change.

It kind of follows no?

If you think we're just experiencing normal weather, well, thats just odd.

[BlasterBates]

Slightly disingenious statement there. We have had the colddest, and warmest temps on record.

We have only really been monitoring weather since the dawn of the industrial age.

It's considered from the industrial age onwards that man made issues was causing global climate change.

It kind of follows no?

If you think we're just experiencing normal weather, well, thats just odd.

Is the lack of hurricanes in the US also due to global warming climate change climate disruption?

No Major U.S. Hurricane Hits This Season Would Set Record at Sixth Year - Bloomberg

[TimberWolf]

So the weathermen are blaming the jet stream again, but it is another flash in the pan or is it moving on a permanent basis? Apparently it's moved south this time and we are getting Scotland's weather, but I thought climate changers were predicting it would [slowly] drift north.