RBS 'Computer Glitch'

[bobspud]

Just seen the Comments from Mr Hester about it being a UK problem and nothing to do with outsourcing...

[SueEllen]

Just seen the Comments from Mr Hester about it being a UK problem and nothing to do with outsourcing...

That's because Unite are having a go at him for sacking British workers and outsourcing.

Oddly unnamed IT experts quoted in the media, some of whom are labelled as "Consultants" and others who claim to having been working previously for RBS before being made redundant, are saying the same thing as Unite....

I'm so glad the woman at Natwest was soo horrible to me as a student.

[NotAllThere]

Funny. This hasn't really made the global news. One of Britain's largest banks compromised... and almost nothing.

[AtW]

I'm so glad the woman at Natwest was soo horrible to me as a student.

WSES

Down with NatWest, Barclays, Halifax (****ing singing bastards!) etc

The only legal "bank" should be single personal taxpayer account with HMRC, you heard it on here first...

[Spacecadet]

That's because Unite are having a go at him for sacking British workers and outsourcing.

Oddly unnamed IT experts quoted in the media, some of whom are labelled as "Consultants" and others who claim to having been working previously for RBS before being made redundant, are saying the same thing as Unite....

I'm so glad the woman at Natwest was soo horrible to me as a student.

Unite have their own agenda to push which is anti outsourcing, anti contractors, pro union member full time staffers

[scooby]

Just seen the Comments from Mr Hester about it being a UK problem and nothing to do with outsourcing...

Isnt that potentially a political response? Bob can still dev and release to a UK based DC...

[CoolerKing]

Did I tell yous about the time when working on y2k for bank in scotland, Bobs tendered a y2k proto-type auto code analyzer that would take source code and produce a report identifying all non y2k compliant date fields.

So we gave them a trial on couple of programs and analysed the end reports.
Sure enough the results matched our expected analysis however what was strange that in the report, fields that were identfied more than once in the program were output either in capitals, or in lower case or leaading capital etc......mmmnnn
this seemed a bit strange......even for a prototype.......

Anyhow turned out after we grillled them for weeks this auto code analyzer was nothin more than a banks of young graduates eyeballing code and typing in a report......

Needless to say they got binned sharpish......

[SantaClaus]

It woz Bob that done it. So sue may I'm a racist

Btw, last time I spoke to an RBS friend of mine, he was managing an entire team of bobs and making frequent trips to Mumbai.

The upper management were pretty tulipe too.

[SantaClaus]

Not to anyone that has any experience in handling the tulip that they throw out in the name of code...

In my time around them I have seen dev-bob practically KILL a full spec HP super dome using cognos and no business sense. (their honest opinion was we needed a bigger box....)

I have seen Java code that was supposed to be part of a set of weblogic deployed apps bypassing the whole ******* ESB and crafting their own hard coded ODBC connections ignoring the the connection pool completely... (code that was just pasted in from google to make matters worse...)

I have seen bobs destroy entire servers because the idea that one might understand that backing up a database needs more than just letting net backup take a copy of the database files while they were in full use...

I have also seen what happens when they try to free up space on a server by wandering into the transaction logs folder and getting rid of all those pesky log files

I have seen reports back from 300 servers that were supposed to be built by automation come back full of discrepancies because the company building them couldn't drive the deployment tool so got some bobs in over a weekend....

Bobs are at best a nuisance and at worst total ******* chaos... It has nothing to do with the colour of their skin and everything to do with their random "****itletsthrowmudatthewallandwatchwhatsticks " method of working. This is my opinion of them after 10 years working with them. and it is also the opinion of pretty much every UK born indian I have worked with. In fact many of the UK indians have an even worse attitude towards them as they feel tarred with the same brush...

Best quote of this thread! It should be framed and hung on the wall in Hester's office.

[centurian]

Just seen the Comments from Mr Hester about it being a UK problem and nothing to do with outsourcing...

Of course it's nothing to do with outsourcing. If it was, a lot of very senior executives would be to blame for that.

If it's a "UK problem", the blame can be much more contained - probably all of it heaped onto a single UK based contractor who will be "sacked as soon as possible" (i.e. his contract ends this week anyway).

However if (and that is a big if) Hestor is correct, then Unite will really end up with egg on their face and it might only hasten further outsourcing.