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Jimmy Carr: 'I've made a terrible error of judgement'

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    #81
    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    And why are you asking me exactly? Nothing I've said has expressed an opinion either legal or moral. It's simply my judgement that my interests are best served by paying my taxes and living in a society where everyone else does likewise, and my opinion that there is a certain minimum level of taxation and state funded economic activity below which a country becomes an undesirable place to live. This is more or less game theoretic, a point that seems to be lost on those such as DA who accuse me in perpetuity of being a lefty liberal apologist whatever, when in actual fact I'm simply a selfish **** who is looking out for my best interests.
    So you are not interested in the poor then? So when Diver and I refuse to play ball with "your interests " are we being immoral?
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      #82
      Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
      Section 58

      HTH
      Originally posted by section 58(Mental Health Act)
      Section 58 defines treatments requiring either competent consent or, if this not possible, a second opinion. It applies immediately to ECT, and to drug treatments given beyond 3 months.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Diver View Post
        Perhaps if I was paying Less in tax I would have a better pension fund as I would be spending my money more wisely than wasting it (under duress) by giving it to the feckless wasters in government.
        Perhaps. Or perhaps the pension company would pocket the difference.
        While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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          #84
          Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
          So you are not interested in the poor then? So when Diver and I refuse to play ball with "your interests " are we being immoral?
          I think my interests are best served by living in a society which acts to reduce inequality amongst it's members. There is quite a lot of evidence that this is the case covering things like crime, mental health, physical health and so on, and as I say I have practical experience of living and working in a number of countries that reinforces this.
          While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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            #85
            Originally posted by Diver View Post
            It's the Law
            No it isn't.

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              #86
              But enough of all this pointless argument, has anyone got the link to the K2 tax scheme?

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                #87
                Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
                But enough of all this pointless argument, has anyone got the link to the K2 tax scheme?
                Peak Performance Accountants Limited
                While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by doodab View Post
                  I think my interests are best served by living in a society which acts to reduce inequality amongst it's members.
                  Right!

                  So some feckless waster that dodged school and has the mindset of parasitic wasp should be treated as equal to a heart surgeon who has spent 1/2 his life studying and training to reach their position and salary.

                  Quite honestly though, maybe you are more equal to someone with mental health problems if you honestly believe that we are all equal and should be treated equally.

                  Perhaps you could move to a communist country where you'd feel more at home PLEASE!
                  Confusion is a natural state of being

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
                    No it isn't.
                    Shut up Spod, I can't argue with two at a time and work!
                    Confusion is a natural state of being

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                      #90
                      Furthermore the performance of the public sector is ignored
                      Of couse it isn't.

                      The NHS is amongst the most cost-effective in the world at reducing mortality rates, streets ahead of the largely-privatised US. A good thing, most believe.

                      Those who think they have 'opted-out' by purchasing private medical insurance might like to consider where the (NHS) ambulance would take them if they were seriously injured, there being no such thing as a private casualty department - and would also be well-advised to check the condititions excluded from their policy - which will likely exclude things such as kidney dialysis, organ transplants and various other chronic and unprofitable chronic conditions such as asthma, diabetes, long-term mental ilness, or geriactric care. All treated by the NHS.

                      Legality does not infer morality and vice versa. We live in a democracy and the legal system is a meant to be expression of the will of Parliament which in turn is meant to be repesentative of the will of the people. (It is not perfectly so, of course, but that is a separate debate). The will of Parliament is pretty clearly that we should contribute roughly 30% of income to fund our shared public services, on a progressive sliding scale, and most have no choice but to comply. The fact that some smart lawyer has found a way around this expression simply means that the law is imperfectly drafted and needs to be changed, regardless of what one thinks of the morality of those who exploit the loophole.
                      Last edited by pjclarke; 21 June 2012, 12:17.
                      My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.

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