Jimmy Carr: 'I've made a terrible error of judgement'

[DodgyAgent]

I don't agree with that. I absolutely think that arranging things not to pay more tax than you need is good and proper. However your conscience should make it very clear if some tactic is simply being efficient, or is clearly going against what the laws are trying to do.

Living in a world where we simply to what the laws say rather than what we know to be right would be/is a terrible thing because the law can never cover every individual case.

If conscience was to be properly applied to the concept of taxation then the morality is in ensuring that tax is spent wisely and effectively. People like me would then be left with no moral argument in depriving government of tax revenue. Instead many people (particularly from the left) view tax as a form of punishment for earning too much. Furthermore the performance of the public sector is ignored and we are made to believe that public sector workers are poor victims who must be "looked after"

We shower public sector workers with employment protection laws, we ignore their appalling absenteeism rates and we are made to believe that standing in a post office or DVLA queue is a privilege.

Instead we have a bunch of left wing "apologists" who bang on about the morality of taxation and refuse to challenge the inefficiencies of how tax is spent. This reveals far more about these people as indivuiduals and I would like to thank Jimmy Carr for revealing what these people are truly about - themselves.

[SimonMac]

Caught out doing what? He didn't do anything illegal.



WHS



But they aren't evasion, they are avoidance and perfectly legal.



This whole argument really annoys me. If it's illegal then fine, do him for it but it's not. It's perfectly legal. Why shouldn't people arrange their affairs to ensure the best possible net outcome for themselves.... within the law as it stands?

Don't even get me started on retrospection

And before you start AtW..... Piss off

I think it was the hypocracy of the fact he had a go at Barclay's for doing the same thing, but when has the point ever got in the way of a good argument

[mrdonuts]

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[Diver]

Additional State Pension : Directgov - Pensions and retirement planning

Cheers
and have some +rep

[Diver]

You get to stay out of prison. Why don't you **** off to Somalia if you don't like it?

Are you a 12 year old child?

Grow up and act like an adult ffs

Pathetic

[SupremeSpod]

I think it was the hypocracy of the fact he had a go at Barclay's for doing the same thing, but when has the point ever got in the way of a good argument

Hypocracy is one thing.

He's a comedian, an actor. Pay him and the monkey will dance.

Cameron has shot himself in the foot with yet another knee jerk reaction.

[Diver]

What about the police, fire, bins, education, the roads you use etc etc, its not that simple I'm afraid.

police, fire, bins, education

Council Tax and taxes on goods and services

roads

Road fund license (car tax) and fuel duty etc etc etc

[doodab]

Are you a 12 year old child?

Grow up and act like an adult ffs

Pathetic

You were asking what you got for your £2k a month. I made the point that it's the price of living in the UK and gave an example of an alternative cheaper country you might choose to live in if you don't feel that you are getting good value. There are plenty of other places you could go and live if you don't fancy Somalia but most of the civilised ones cost more than the UK which makes one wonder if there isn't perhaps a minimum cost of being civilised.

[DodgyAgent]

You were asking what you got for your £2k a month. I made the point that it's the price of living in the UK and gave an example of an alternative cheaper country you might choose to live in if you don't feel that you are getting good value. There are plenty of other places you could go and live if you don't fancy Somalia but most of the civilised ones cost more than the UK which makes one wonder if there isn't perhaps a minimum cost of being civilised.

Unlike you I feel I am entitled to ask the people to who I pay £2000 per month to what exactly is happening to my money and for them to prove to me that it is being spent effectively. You seem to think that we should simply "pay the money" and not ask questions.

[Diver]

You were asking what you got for your £2k a month. I made the point that it's the price of living in the UK and gave an example of an alternative cheaper country you might choose to live in if you don't feel that you are getting good value. There are plenty of other places you could go and live if you don't fancy Somalia but most of the civilised ones cost more than the UK which makes one wonder if there isn't perhaps a minimum cost of being civilised.

No you made a childish response to a perfectly logical post.

I pay more in tax and national insurance than most people earn a month. a significant amount of the money I earn and am taxed on is earned abroad from foreign companies, not in the UK.
I pay tax on everything I use, everything I purchase and everything I do, I pay high taxes on fuel and clothing, transport and hotels, I pay for private dentistry, private medical etc. etc. etc.

My Welsh family tree can be traced back as the 16th century and genetically back to prehistory. why should I leave the UK, if you are English I can pretty much guarantee that my ancestors were here long before yours