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    #41
    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    I think we looked better organised against France than we have done in a while, certainly not out of our depth as we did against the Germans. We didn't set the world on fire but it's a good starting point. I think we'll get out of the group but the next round could be tough.
    One thing you'll never be with Roy is disorganised. He knows how to set a team up and get everyone knowing what they're supposed to be doing. It might not be the most exciting spectacle but he does usually get his teams to play good passing football, keep the ball on the ground etc.

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      #42
      Originally posted by TheBigD View Post
      Really? You can't think of 2 strikers (assuming a 4-4-2 formation) you'd have in your team ahead of Rooney? I'd go for any two of Neymar, Messi, David Villa, Mario Gomez, Sergio Aguero.

      Rooney wouldn't make the squad, but he wouldn't be too far down the list.
      Villa isnt playing, not seen Neymar, Gomez and Aguero are different players than Rooney, more out and out Lineker type strikers. I also think I'd rather have a Rooney type player (thinking Berghamp type player), than out and out strikers like Gomez and Aguero.

      Messi, well, yes, of course. Villa when he's fit I'd put at the same level as Rooney.

      Sounds daft, but I think of Rooney as a #10, not a #9 and I think Gomez and Aguero are #9's.

      As said, not seen Neymar.

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        #43
        Cole and Rooney are both vastly over rated as too is Hart to a lesser extent (a feeble effort to keep out France’s goal). I certainly wouldn’t have Cole in any 'world' or England squad as he can’t stop wanking over his phone and Rooney is always liable to see red. Hart; the jury is out.

        HTH

        one day at a time

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          #44
          Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
          Not above Cole, who would certainly get in a world 23.
          That's because there's a lot less competition for the title of best left-back.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Bunk View Post
            That's because there's a lot less competition for the title of best left-back.
            WHS
            one day at a time

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              #46
              Roy can play expansive attacking football as he did when Fulham beat Juve 4-1. However I cant see this happening with the national team.
              Being hard to break down is good and Roy has given some faith and a little bit of belief back to the england supporters.
              I might not agree with some of his squad selections but then again at the start of the tournament I couldn't care two hoots about England as they have failed to deliver so many times.
              If they give their all and go out trying that's all you can ask.

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                #47
                Originally posted by FiveTimes View Post
                Being hard to break down is good and Roy has given some faith and a little bit of belief back to the england supporters.
                I might not agree with some of his squad selections but then again at the start of the tournament I couldn't care two hoots about England as they have failed to deliver so many times.
                If they give their all and go out trying that's all you can ask.
                WHS +1

                Pretty much exactly how I feel

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                  #48
                  Should I mention that I got Sweden in the office sweepstake so I want them to win
                  Growing old is mandatory
                  Growing up is optional

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Bunk View Post
                    That's because there's a lot less competition for the title of best left-back.
                    No, there are the same number of left backs in world soccer as any other position.

                    People dismiss Cole simply because they hate him, and let that get in the way of objective football judgement. The fact is, more coaches consider him the best than any other left back.

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                      #50
                      I think Cole is a fine player. A cockknobber of the highest calibre, but a fine player.

                      I think what you've said could equally be said of Rooney. People aren't looking at it with their heads.

                      However, you are wrong about the numbers.

                      There are 2 centre backs, for instance, 2 forwards, 2 centre midfielders.....

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