Vegan

[russell]

I will say the same thing to you as I have said to every Vegan I have ever met:

How many Cows, Chickens and sheep will you be adopting as pets?

Nearly all the meat that is consumed within the food chain, is some form of farmed specially bred animal that cannot be set loose. and I know of no farmers that want to bread and feed a bull because its cute... Oddly enough the very thing that most Vegans wish to see (an end to the breading of animals for resources) would end in the mass slaughter or eradication of entire species. I have a lot of time for those who have campaigned for the good treatment of animals and better standards, but living in the middle of Somerset and being able to source my meat from High welfare butchers like Ruby and Marble I see nothing wrong with breeding an animal well, giving it a good standard of living, and finally dispatching it with dignity and as humanly as possible.

Some might argue that compared to having to be starved to death as the only form of ending human life for terminally ill patients. to be faced with a stun gun and a swift exit is a far better death, than most humans will ever experience.

I suggest you find a more worthy band wagon to join.

Utter garbage, how would you like it if your kids where treated well then at 18 a bolt through their brain and ripped apart, packaged and sent to Tesco. For some reason people are shocked when someone kills a cat or dog but have no problem with billions of cows, sheep etc being slaughtered. Utter disconnect with reality.

To the other poster, you don't need supplements you can get everything you need in a vegan diet. Consider the the meat you have eaten was raised on plants etc Don't filter your nutrients through another animal go to the source.

[d000hg]

Utter garbage, how would you like it if your kids where treated well then at 18 a bolt through their brain and ripped apart, packaged and sent to Tesco. For some reason people are shocked when someone kills a cat or dog but have no problem with billions of cows, sheep etc being slaughtered. Utter disconnect with reality.

Should we also cull all the tigers and sharks to stop them murdering other animals for food?

To the other poster, you don't need supplements you can get everything you need in a vegan diet. Consider the the meat you have eaten was raised on plants etc Don't filter your nutrients through another animal go to the source.

You do realise herbivores don't get all their nutrients through their food (i.e. plants), don't you?

[Spacecadet]

Yeah. Better to have lived and been eaten than never to have lived at all*

Something which can only be said in retrospect of having lived

If the animals were never conceived or born in the first place then their existance and the quality of could never be questioned

[NotAllThere]

Carnivores have a short intestine so meat passes quickly and doesn't sit rotting in there gut, ours is similar ratio to herbivores, hence humans eating meat and animal products develop cancer, hear disease etc.

Meat doesn't rot in the gut. It passes out quite quickly. Not as quickly as syrup of figs, but nonetheless well before it starts to rot. Unless you're eating a particularly gamey bird.

No, I was highlighting what true carnivores are like, think of a tiger, cheetah etc.

So, badgers and pigs aren't supposed to eat meat?

Live long and prosper.

[xoggoth]

Vegetables are our cousins too

Indeed, science is showing more and more that plants are not quite the passive things we always imagined:

Plants can talk, say scientists | Mail Online

So maybe you should skip plants to avoid cruelty to those and start eating rocks. Trouble is, somebody will some show they are sentient too. What's left? Oh no, energy has feelings as well!

[TimberWolf]

Something which can only be said in retrospect of having lived

If the animals were never conceived or born in the first place then their existance and the quality of could never be questioned

Anything living usually wants to stay that way. We can't help the ones that never lived because vegetarians didn't give them a chance.

[bobspud]

Thought I would catch some flack just for choosing to be a vegan, funny all the puppets defending the meat/dairy industry who are slowly killing them for a fat profit.

Had missed this quote.

Just to point out that Barry Gibb died of the same illness as my mother, despite years of being a tee total Vegen. Her benefit was that she lived to be 72 and despite being overweight for all of my life she was healthy and free of illness up until the final year. Your bell will toll regardless of what ever health regime you pick.

[TimberWolf]

Indeed, science is showing more and more that plants are not quite the passive things we always imagined:

Plants can talk, say scientists | Mail Online

So maybe you should skip plants to avoid cruelty to those and start eating rocks. Trouble is, somebody will some show they are sentient too. What's left? Oh no, energy has feelings as well!

Check out fern who produce mobile sperm. But who having cracked moving around decided to opt for a vegetative state after fertilisation.

[NotAllThere]

Best to be a cannibal vegan. Only eat Swedes.

[Old Hack]

Watching wild life programs with my kids, we see plenty of animals getting torn apart and in lots of cases, eaten whilst still alive.

I would think any animal that lives in a nice safe field with no immediate dangers apart from when their number is called, would consider it a nice life, if arguable a little cut short.

Tried vegetarianism whilst dating a vegan. Even then, I'd go out and eat meat.

Je pense, donc je mange de la chair