Universe fine tuned?

[d000hg]

Einstein and the cosmological constant is another example that even brilliant scientists can be very human in their determination to find answers they want to find. The good scientists of course recognise this can happen and admit it when it does (like Einstein).

[Spacecadet]

From the original wiki link:-

"One hypothesis is that the Universe may have been designed by extra-universal aliens. Some believe this would solve the problem of how a designer or design team capable of fine-tuning the Universe could come to exist. Cosmologist Alan Guth believes humans will in time be able to generate new universes. By implication previous intelligent entities may have generated our Universe.[29] This idea leads to the possibility that the extraterrestrial designer/designers are themselves the product of an evolutionary process in their own universe, which must therefore itself be able to sustain life"

Sounds like the plot for the film "The Thirteenth Floor"

[alluvial]

Einstein and the cosmological constant is another example that even brilliant scientists can be very human in their determination to find answers they want to find. The good scientists of course recognise this can happen and admit it when it does (like Einstein).

I'd forgotten about that.
Just looked it up and it appears that it is making a come back due to the observation of an accelerating universe. Which tends to put the mockers on any Big Crunch theory.

[oscarose]

After years of study, I've come to the conclusion that we are indeed controlled by aliens. Simply, if the earth was located 100+- miles from it's actual location, life as we know it would not exist.

I'm now keeping a very low profile with Ms. Rose as not to upset our controller(s) and practicing good karma. No carbon life in our house can be killed...

You may laugh, but remember history and keep an open mind...

[Spacecadet]

After years of study, I've come to the conclusion that we are indeed controlled by aliens. Simply, if the earth was 100+- miles located from it's actual location, life as we know it would not exist.

I'm now keeping a very low profile with Ms. Rose as not to upset our controller(s) and keeping good karma. No carbon life in our house can be killed...

You may laugh, but remember history and keep an open mind...

The earths orbital radius from the sun fluctuates by a few million kilometers

Don't believe every facebook status update

[Cliphead]

The earths orbital radius from the sun fluctuates by a few million kilometers

Don't believe every facebook status update

Don't forget wobbling and precession and a slowing of the earth's rotation and the Moon moving away from Earth and...

[oscarose]

The earths orbital radius from the sun fluctuates by a few million kilometers

Don't believe every facebook status update

Don't forget wobbling and precession and a slowing of the earth's rotation and the Moon moving away from Earth and...

Semantics again, missing the point.

[NotAllThere]

(Guitar) String theory. The universe is perfectly tuned to E. Except for some alternate universes which are tuned to D.

It's all in Calabi-Yau space.

[xoggoth]

A creator is as good a theory as any, it's just the established religions, the idea of a god who is interested in the salvation of individuals that makes no sense whatever.

a) Why would a loving god make man jump through all these hoops rather than just put him in heaven in the first place?

b) Why is an omnipotent god apparently not capable of eliminating evil?

c) Why is it just to condemn all men for sin equally when many things that make a man what he is, his genes, growth in the womb, nutrition, stress and trauma, upbringing, disease or injury, are entirely outside his control?

d) Why are the all the practices that god gave to other social animals for their survival, promiscuity, attacking other tribes, driving out or eliminating rivals and their offspring, suddenly sinful where mankind is concerned?

e) If wisdom comes from god who knows all things, why is there not a single thing in the words of any prophet or in any good book, that shows any knowledge whatever outside of the time and society in which they were said or written?

f) How is that revelations are so limited by time and place? Don't the souls of people born before the prophet/saviour or those who live far away and never hear his words matter? If truth is supposed to be revealed to all as some claim, how come it never actually happens? Why do people have diferent beliefs all over the world, generally whatever they are taught to believe?

g) Why has god mysteriously stopped performing miracles, appearing to the faithful, rumbling up mountains and handing our sacred scrolls since science has had the ability to record such events?

[Spacecadet]

A creator is as good a theory as any, it's just the established religions, the idea of a god who is interested in the salvation of individuals that makes no sense whatever.

a) Why would a loving god make man jump through all these hoops rather than just put him in heaven in the first place?

b) Why is an omnipotent god apparently not capable of eliminating evil?

c) Why is it just to condemn all men for sin equally when many things that make a man what he is, his genes, growth in the womb, nutrition, stress and trauma, upbringing, disease or injury, are entirely outside his control?

d) Why are the all the practices that god gave to other social animals for their survival, promiscuity, attacking other tribes, driving out or eliminating rivals and their offspring, suddenly sinful where mankind is concerned?

e) If wisdom comes from god who knows all things, why is there not a single thing in the words of any prophet or in any good book, that shows any knowledge whatever outside of the time and society in which they were said or written?

f) How is that revelations are so limited by time and place? Don't the souls of people born before the prophet/saviour or those who live far away and never hear his words matter? If truth is supposed to be revealed to all as some claim, how come it never actually happens? Why do people have diferent beliefs all over the world, generally whatever they are taught to believe?

g) Why has god mysteriously stopped performing miracles, appearing to the faithful, rumbling up mountains and handing our sacred scrolls since science has had the ability to record such events?

the first handful can be answered by Freedom of Choice, we have to consciously choose the right path, it is what separates us from the "beasts". God could plonk us straight into heaven but what would be the point?