Don't sweat the small stuff

[mudskipper]

Just imagine and airplane full of CUKers makes crash landing somewhere in snowy moutains, talk about battle for survival!!!

Yeah, would be a bit of a disaster. Lots of willy waving and designing complex stuff, only to realise that without bob to actually do the work we're all fooked.

[d000hg]

Just imagine and airplane full of CUKers makes crash landing somewhere in snowy moutains, talk about battle for survival!!!

I bet zoidy would get eaten first.

[Freamon]

Just imagine and airplane full of CUKers makes crash landing somewhere in snowy moutains, talk about battle for survival!!!

This has been on the CUK risk register for years though, since it got added, we've always made sure we take separate flights.

[TimberWolf]

Just imagine and airplane full of CUKers makes crash landing somewhere in snowy moutains, talk about battle for survival!!!

No problem, one or two will have had previous experience of walking to the north pole and be medically trained according to their CV.

[TimberWolf]

Did anyone look into how she survived? The chair alone is unlikely to have saved her. Presumably the seating she was strapped was so big that it hit plenty of stuff in the canopy on the way down that would otherwise have proved fatal, it perhaps had a lower terminal velocity than a human and perhaps buried itself in the ground. Evidence of that would presumably have been around.

Also interesting is that her mother, who she had been sat next to on the plane, also survived for a few days, but wasn't in the seat next to her on the ground.

[OwlHoot]

Did anyone look into how she survived? The chair alone is unlikely to have saved her. Presumably the seating she was strapped was so big that it hit plenty of stuff in the canopy on the way down that would otherwise have proved fatal, it perhaps had a lower terminal velocity than a human and perhaps buried itself in the ground. Evidence of that would presumably have been around.

Also interesting is that her mother, who she had been sat next to on the plane, also survived for a few days, but wasn't in the seat next to her on the ground.

Can't be bothered to go back and check, but didn't the article say she parted from her seat in mid air?

In a random posture, maybe tumbling, she'd have a terminal velocity of about 120 MPH. So if she landed on a thick forest canopy and creepers and was slowed while tumbling through all that, it doesn't seem so unlikely she would survive despite being knocked about a fair bit.

Also, she was presumably lighter than the average adult, and that would reduce her terminal velocity to maybe "only" 90 or 100 MPH

[TimberWolf]

Can't be bothered to go back and check, but didn't the article say she parted from her seat in mid air?

In a random posture, maybe tumbling, she'd have a terminal velocity of about 120 MPH. So if she landed on a thick forest canopy and creepers and was slowed while tumbling through all that, it doesn't seem so unlikely she would survive despite being knocked about a fair bit.

The girl was still strapped into her seat when it hit the ground. A girl is likely to have a lower terminal velocity than an adult btw.

Edit: mind you she was 17 IIRC, so not really a little girl.

[minestrone]

Did anyone look into how she survived? The chair alone is unlikely to have saved her. Presumably the seating she was strapped was so big that it hit plenty of stuff in the canopy on the way down that would otherwise have proved fatal, it perhaps had a lower terminal velocity than a human and perhaps buried itself in the ground. Evidence of that would presumably have been around.

Also interesting is that her mother, who she had been sat next to on the plane, also survived for a few days, but wasn't in the seat next to her on the ground.

I heard and interview with her on Radio Scotland last week on the Fred MacAulay show ( I looked for the podcast/listen again but could not find it, might be there somewhere)

She said she was knocked out and came round a second before she hit the ground, she thought that she got taken upwards just before impact with an updraft. She was asked if she though she was going to die when she was dropping and said there was no time to.

(lot of shes in that last bit)

[Troll]

Did anyone look into how she survived? The chair alone is unlikely to have saved her. Presumably the seating she was strapped was so big that it hit plenty of stuff in the canopy on the way down that would otherwise have proved fatal, it perhaps had a lower terminal velocity than a human and perhaps buried itself in the ground. Evidence of that would presumably have been around.

Also interesting is that her mother, who she had been sat next to on the plane, also survived for a few days, but wasn't in the seat next to her on the ground.

I'm sure I'd read some of the Lockerbie passengers where thought to be alive for a while after falling from the plane

[TimberWolf]

I'm sure I'd read some of the Lockerbie passengers where thought to be alive for a while after falling from the plane

Yes, I believe you're right.