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    #11
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Isn't this very similar to how a hunter would slaughter an animal in the wild when he doesn't have gun?
    We're not the bushmen of the Kalahari.

    This is the UK in the 21st Century.

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      #12
      be within the parameters acceptable to the host culture.
      The death isn't that bad. I would prefer it if it didn't happen but it's like a minute at the most. They way animals die in the wild is much worse in many cases.

      Battery farming is far more disgusting too, but we accept that so why can't we accept this?

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        #13
        Originally posted by pacharan View Post
        We're not the bushmen of the Kalahari.
        They understand animals, and probably treat them far better than 'civilised' countries do, I'd wager. People who hunt and kill animals tend to have a healthy respect, even love, for them.
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #14
          Originally posted by Waldorf View Post
          Shocked last night, when visiting my usual chinese take away, they now have a big notice that all their meat is now "halal" - I apparently have no choice whether or not to have it, so I turned away and went elsewhere.

          I am not happy that more and more outlets are using halal meat, I would prefer to choose to eat meat that has been reared as humanly as possible.

          This makes me so mad
          This is hypocritical. By eating Chinese food you are basically funding a country where there's absolutely no respect for human rights and then you make such a fuss about animal rights. Why don't you come clean and say you would rather give the money to the Chinese than the Pakis?
          <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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            #15
            Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
            That's an honest stance I can respect.
            The simple truth is I would prefer an animal is given a decent life and killed in a gruesome way, than lives its life in a box and then dies in its sleep.

            Originally posted by petergriffin View Post
            This is hypocritical. By eating Chinese food you are basically funding a country where there's absolutely no respect for human rights
            Please explain more why eating chicken chow mein from your local "Mr. Chow" is funding China?
            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
            Originally posted by vetran
            Urine is quite nourishing

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              #16
              Originally posted by petergriffin View Post
              This is hypocritical. By eating Chinese food you are basically funding a country where there's absolutely no respect for human rights and then you make such a fuss about animal rights. Why don't you come clean and say you would rather give the money to the Chinese than the Pakis?
              Careful there mate, you'll be offending someone.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Robinho View Post
                The death isn't that bad. I would prefer it if it didn't happen but it's like a minute at the most. They way animals die in the wild is much worse in many cases.

                Battery farming is far more disgusting too, but we accept that so why can't we accept this?
                Because the animal rights lobby spent years making sure slaughter houses were cruelty free zones (I know) and a set of rules were introduced. Many slaughter houses had to spend lots of money making sure they operated within the law.
                Now it seems that you can avoid said law by setting your place up as halal (or <insert method of choice here>).
                If halal is acceptable then all slaughter houses should be allowed to use this method. It is that simple.
                We either insist on animal rights in all slaughter houses or we agree that halal is the minimum standard.
                Just saying like.

                where there's chaos, there's cash !

                I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong!

                Lowering the tone since 1963

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                  #18
                  Well i have no problem with consistency. Can't say i'm going to lose any sleep over all of this though.

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                    #19
                    Perhaps one way to fight back would be to complain your clients canteen doesn't serve meat touched by his noodly appendage and so is an affront to your religious values
                    Doing the needful since 1827

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by pacharan View Post
                      And Mahatma Ghandi said the greatness of a nation can be judged by the way it treats its animals.

                      Shameful. No objection to people having the freedom to practicing their religion but it must be within the parameters acceptable to the host culture.

                      This is clearly NOT within those parameters.

                      And shame on that apologist writing for the Guardian by claiming that it's the mozzie haters at the DM perpetuating a myth that Halal is cruel.

                      90% don't get stunned and the stunning, when performed, is a light stunning such that the animal is normally conscious when the cut is made.

                      And shame on the Guardian for publishing the story.
                      So shall we ban meat?

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