Make Bratwurst British

[sasguru]

So because you dont understand the argument and not equipped to join in you start throwing neg reps around? Just put me on your ignore list ****.

The word itself is not racist, I think we have established that.
It only becomes racist when used in a racist way or has became a racial epithet.
Thus the word in the UK is racially offensive.
More precisely when uttered by a white person it is racially offensive.
Which means only white people can be racist (in this context) which is racist in itself.

I am currently working with 12 Asians (Southern) 2 of whom are from Karachi. The other 10 chaps (from Bangalore) refer to them using the shortened form of their nationality. I find I can not, it makes me feel dirty some how. None of the 12 would mind. I am the only one here who doesn't use it.

I find it sad that as a society we let the bigots win. They own a few words, we need to get them back.

To those of you arguing about other shortened Nationalities and nicknames. All of them are regularly used in a similar way all over the world. Pomms and Pomm bashing in Aus would be a case in point. Brits on the piss, Hooligan Brits and ******* British are all phrases I have heard in my travels. Le Rossbiff is a nasty French term for the English and is as racist a term as has ever been used yet we have a user who has it as a handle on this very board.

Some of you are driven by emotion in this argument and it shows. Get a grip.

You're not usually this dense. Would you use the word niG*er when talking to a black person? And if not why not?
It's just a short form of Negro which means black, after all. Words are not self contained entities, they gain their meaning in a cultural and historical context.

[BrilloPad]

You're not usually this dense. Would you use the word niG*er when talking to a black person? And if not why not?
It's just a short form of Negro which means black, after all. Words are not self contained entities, they gain their meaning in a cultural and historical context.

Well times change. What was once acceptable as a name for Guy Gibson's dog is no longer allowed.

Same with swastika. There are some on the war memorial at the entrance to Balmoral castle.

Maybe one day sas*uru will become some sort of ugly swear word - "one who can only respond with the word cretin"

[mudskipper]

Well I always thought that a paki shop was not necessarily run by people of Pakistani descent - but one which opened very long hours and supplied a great range of items. i.e. it is a complientary term.

Really? So you would apply the term to a shop run by a white couple if it opened long hours?

[Old Greg]

Well times change. What was once acceptable as a name for Guy Gibson's dog is no longer allowed.

Same with swastika. There are some on the war memorial at the entrance to Balmoral castle.

Maybe one day sas*uru will become some sort of ugly swear word - "one who can only respond with the word cretin"

Urban Dict

[BrilloPad]

Really? So you would apply the term to a shop run by a white couple if it opened long hours?

yes. In fact I have heard the term applied to a corner shop owned by a white couple.

Quite frankly the average "Pakistani" works harder than the average "Brit". Which is why I believe the future lies in Asia.

Recently my wife pointed out that most of my friends are of Asian decent. I had not really noticed before. The only time I notice is when they start being racist - this India vs Pakistan thingy gets right out of hand. To be honest I just nod and let them get on with it. They soon get the message.

[Old Greg]

Well I always thought that a paki shop was not necessarily run by people of Pakistani descent - but one which opened very long hours and supplied a great range of items. i.e. it is a complientary term.

You're a bright lad. When CM sends you and churchy out for 20 Richmond and 4 litres of white lightening, and he suggests you 'fire bomb the paki shop' on the way out, do you not wonder whether he's referring to something other than their business nous and work ethic?

[Zoiderman]

Well I always thought that a paki shop was not necessarily run by people of Pakistani descent - but one which opened very long hours and supplied a great range of items. i.e. it is a complientary term.

Brillo, I think you'll find its the blanket description of someone of the sub continent being described as a paki that infuriates the most.


Anytime something is describe with a nod to their ethnicity, you should look a little closer. Paki isn't a complimentary term, in any way shape of form, is derogatory, and its use is illegal in context. If a word is illegal in contextual situations, I think its safe to assume its a word you shouldn't use without caution.


No caution was harmed in the making of this thread.

[BrilloPad]

yes. In fact I have heard the term applied to a corner shop owned by a white couple.

Quite frankly the average "Pakistani" works harder than the average "Brit". Which is why I believe the future lies in Asia.

Recently my wife pointed out that most of my friends are of Asian decent. I had not really noticed before. The only time I notice is when they start being racist - this India vs Pakistan thingy gets right out of hand. To be honest I just nod and let them get on with it. They soon get the message.

And while on the subject of racism, where I work I could just about tolerate the diversity course. But the inclusion course is a step too far.

Shortly afterwards baby BP came home with a leaving card from nursery from Colin - his best friend who was moving on. My wife said - "a lovely little black boy". I responded with "oh good baby BP has a black friend" like it was a badge of honour or summat. Then I thought "what the fook am I thinking? Why should I care what colour his friend is?". The inclusion course had got to me.

I think those who push the racism card do far more harm than good. Like condeming Churchill for no good reason. A lovely guy who is clearly not racist atall. I know this is general and expected to be full of cretins - but people really should engage their brain first.

And with that I am going to flounce. Don't expect me on cuk for a while. Well except for the counting thread.

[Zoiderman]

He hasn't been condemned for no good reason: in one single post, he used ther terms Chinky and Paki, to describe the ownership of a shop. One is regarded as racist, the other known as racist.


You don't tend to defend that rationale, that kind of language and not get some comment.



You really shouldn't be defending him you know, as this stuff tends ot rub off.



Don't flounce though.

[Old Greg]

And while on the subject of racism, where I work I could just about tolerate the diversity course. But the inclusion course is a step too far.

Shortly afterwards baby BP came home with a leaving card from nursery from Colin - his best friend who was moving on. My wife said - "a lovely little black boy". I responded with "oh good baby BP has a black friend" like it was a badge of honour or summat. Then I thought "what the fook am I thinking? Why should I care what colour his friend is?". The inclusion course had got to me.

I think those who push the racism card do far more harm than good. Like condeming Churchill for no good reason. A lovely guy who is clearly not racist atall. I know this is general and expected to be full of cretins - but people really should engage their brain first.

And with that I am going to flounce. Don't expect me on cuk for a while. Well except for the counting thread.

Don't flounce and if you do keep up with the tagging or the boss wl turn you into food pellets.

BTW are you a permie BP? You wouldn't catch me on a diversity or inclusion course.