ICTs

[DodgyAgent]

Nothing to do with dodge and I have happily had more than my fair share of dustings with him. But I think you were unfair in your argument. Companies are flooding the market with these abuses. So I agree with you in that respect. But if they though the native workers would pick them up on it publicly they might not feel so invincible. For my part I stopped my current client co importing a dozen bobs last year because I sat in the meeting and told the guy in question that he was breaking the law and that I would ensure that the client and authorities in question got a copy of the email trail if he didn't pack it in.

If no one has the guts to get guerrilla on this matter then sooner or later we will be like the middle class guys that used to build apple stuff in the US. There will be no more UK industry because all the guys in the offshore teams will be able to cut out the middle man.

I think you might find he would rather complain than do anything about it. Well done you!

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I think you might find he would rather complain than do anything about it. Well done you!

Ahh bless 'em

[northernladuk]

From the same link on CUK...

As a result, ICTs should be kept in place without changes - as should the minimum salary threshold of £40,000 on ICTs permitting the non-EU applicant to work in Britain for longer than 12 months (and up to five years).

The guys that come over on ICT have to be on over 40K??? Is that right or am I missing something?

[oracleslave]

From the same link on CUK...



The guys that come over on ICT have to be on over 40K??? Is that right or am I missing something?

AFAIK that is correct. The problem is with policing it. The tendency is rather to pay them less than that and then top it up with subsistence allowances etc.

[TimberWolf]

From the same link on CUK...



The guys that come over on ICT have to be on over 40K??? Is that right or am I missing something?

No, 12 month ICT'ers can effectively work for minimum wage (£20K officially, reduced by Dave from £24K), their numbers can be unlimited, they are not counted, and are heading for the stratosphere. Dave is really keen on ICTs and took a special trip out to India where he managed to get lots more.

[AtW]

The guys that come over on ICT have to be on over 40K??? Is that right or am I missing something?

Apparently for under 6 months it can be £20k - amazing how they watered down initially sensible proposals to benefit certain firms

[Arturo Bassick]

The salary also includes expenses.
You would think the 20K on 6 months or less would be pro rata of the 40, but no it is per annum.
Consequently (and this is from the Bobs I work with) they are paid their local wage + a bonus at home and then good living costs here.
They are better for the sponsoring firm because they can not jump ship once they find out how much everybody else earns. Ours change every 6 months to keep under the limit but none of them are doing "in house" jobs as they are supposed to be. They are all being trained in the clients systems just like anybody else would be.

** I am in Germany, but I believe the rules are similar.