Poor Raymond :(

[d000hg]

I don't know what you're supposed to do about the fags, it is a genuine addiction. It's well established that taking money away from drug addicts doesn't stop them using drugs...

[The Spartan]

I don't know what you're supposed to do about the fags, it is a genuine addiction. It's well established that taking money away from drug addicts doesn't stop them using drugs...

Most Nicotine Replacement Therapies are dished out for free on the NHS so they can just give up and use those

[scooterscot]

I don't have sky.

How come he was that cruel to have so many kids without the income to support them?

Now being a father myself I despair at the thought.

[kingcook]

"Raymond, a former educational software writer, has been jobless since 2001."



One would have thought he'd at least try Plan B from home writing edukational web stuff like our own xoggoth ...

That was one of the first things that came to my mind too. He must be a bit of a dork (or one lazy ****er) to let 10 years pass and not realise he needs to do something about it.

[The Spartan]

Put him down

[Arturo Bassick]

5 of the kids are from external relationships so maybe the other parents could be asked to help (though odds are they are on the dole too) or given custody.

[The Spartan]

It amazes me how these people live with themselves, dirty filthy scroungers

[BoredBloke]

Hardly sounds an excessive lifestyle to me, it's the cost of cigarettes which sound like the killer... don't begrudge them £15 on booze.

IF it was accurate, that is:

• £20 a week on entertainment is really not a problem for a family... but apparently their entire entertainment budget goes on the dad's weekly pub trip. Either not true, or very selfish.
• £90 a week on 'other', listed mainly as school stuff. No way.
• Mobile phones for the teenage kids and both adults? Having a laugh.
• Sky... £15 a month I'd say OK but a week? Get freeview like the rest of us and treat yourselves to Blockbuster once or twice a week.

I don't hold being on benefits should mean you have absolutely no luxury or entertainment in a civilised country. Learning to budget is what they need more than anything else.

I ******* do! £15 a week on booze is £780 a year, almost £8k for the past decade. Why the frig are we paying him to sit around anyway. So roles for his skills are not available in his area.....well so what. They are not available in my area either. Which is why I'm down south. About 12 years ago when I worked in support I could see the rates dropping and the roles becomming more and more low level. So I got out and did something different. So should this lazy sponging get!

[xoggoth]

What seems most wrong here is this:

three of his wife's four children from an earlier relationship

Why is the father of those kids not contributing raher than Raymond?

One would have thought he'd at least try Plan B from home writing edukational web stuff like our own xoggoth ...

Quite. He could be a whole £15 a week better off, although they would probably take it off his benefits.

[wobbegong]

Put him down

them