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[DimPrawn]

Welfare vote: Government's benefit cap reform defeated in House of Lords - Telegraph

[adubya]

The Gov will just ignore the old codgers and pass it anyway

[Troll]

The Gov will just ignore the old codgers and pass it anyway

If they can use the Parliament Act to overcome the Lords for getting a fox hunting ban, then getting a Debt Reduction Bill through should be easy

[xoggoth]

Why do Bishops have any say in our government at all? As for that great military expert Captain Ashdown

[TimberWolf]

Stop working and get breeding.

[DodgyAgent]

How do we know that benefits go to the children anyway?

[DimPrawn]

How do we know that benefits go to the children anyway?

I've seen the great unwashed pushing shopping trolleys stacked with lager and ciggies and a few packets of Smart Price fish fingers.

Pay these cnuts in food stamps not cash.

[bobspud]

I've seen the great unwashed pushing shopping trolleys stacked with lager and ciggies and a few packets of Smart Price fish fingers.

Pay these cnuts in food stamps not cash.

+1 for the prawn!

[NotAllThere]

I think it's a reasonable point:

The Rt Rev Packer said: "It cannot be right for the cap to be the same for a childless couple as for a couple with children. Child benefit is the most appropriate way to right this unfairness."

If you want to know why bishops have a say, read a history book. Why they still have a say is another matter. Child benefit is necessary to help keep mum in gin and cigarettes. It's necessary.

[Arturo Bassick]

If the church is so keen then why dont they set up a fund to help those hit by the cap.