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[TimberWolf]

The church loves children. It's regularly in the news how much priests love children, for example.

[gingerjedi]

I've seen the great unwashed pushing shopping trolleys stacked with lager and ciggies and a few packets of Iceland Prawn Rings.

Pay these cnuts in food stamps not cash.

FTFY

[NotAllThere]

If the church is so keen then why dont they set up a fund to help those hit by the cap.

The church loves children. It's regularly in the news how much priests love children, for example.

These Bishops are not Catholic bishops.

[Arturo Bassick]

These Bishops are not Catholic bishops.

I never made such a distinction. I suggested that any church, Catholic, Anglican or Muslim can set up their own charitable organisation to help families who can not survive on 26K per year.

[NotAllThere]

They often do. I assumed you were assuming the catholic church, because that is often seen as loaded. Whereas the Anglican church isn't quite so well off.

The purpose of the house of lords is to provide scrutiny of government legislation, and propose changes. It's up to the government to accept them or not. It's seems reasonable that the various institutions that still make up the UK and are aware of social issues in a way that politicians might not be, should be able to point out to the government implications that they've perhaps not considered.

Of course, if you have a knee-jerk hysterical response to anything that is associated with religion, the establishment or the conservatives, reason will be irrelevant.

btw - there's no such thing as a Muslim church.

[TimberWolf]

They often do. I assumed you were assuming the catholic church, because that is often seen as loaded. Whereas the Anglican church isn't quite so well off.

The purpose of the house of lords is to provide scrutiny of government legislation, and propose changes. It's up to the government to accept them or not. It's seems reasonable that the various institutions that still make up the UK and are aware of social issues in a way that politicians might not be, should be able to point out to the government implications that they've perhaps not considered.

Of course, if you have a knee-jerk hysterical response to anything that is associated with religion, the establishment or the conservatives, reason will be irrelevant.

btw - there's no such thing as a Muslim church.

Fail. For using 'reason' and 'religion' in the same sentence. Schoolboy error.

[The Spartan]

The government will get it passed in the house of commons, I still think 26k is too high

[Arturo Bassick]

The government will get it passed in the house of commons, I still think 26k is too high

26K would be a maximum. It would have to be a very large family to qualify for that. Most would not get near it.
I can see a few issues arising, so the method may need changing, but the idea I think is a good one.

[The Spartan]

26K would be a maximum. It would have to be a very large family to qualify for that. Most would not get near it.
I can see a few issues arising, so the method may need changing, but the idea I think is a good one.

Why should we have to support someone who decides not to work and have a large family

[Arturo Bassick]

Why should we have to support someone who decides not to work and have a large family

Not all of them made that decision and as a civilized society I believe we have an obligation to those who have fallen on hard times.
The difficulty is in looking after the deserving without encouraging the feckless.