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    #81
    My pennysworth. I recently came out of a gig with a well known Indian based IT consultancy that rhymes with PATA. I was not only shocked to learn that they had sold a project on the basis of having highly skilled resources off shore, and were also supplying top notch skills on shore as well. I met the onshore resource and could have cried. One of the lads kept sloping in later and later each day, on average coming in around 11:30 and buggering off at 16:30

    After the requirements gathering phase there was a period of around 6 weeks where the off shore team (who were engaged from day 1, I have no idea why) sat on their hands while the customer struggled to deliver their part of the bargain - the dev environment.

    I had tasked the off-shore team with reading the spec and listing out their questions.

    6 weeks later we were ready to go, dev environment ready. Off-shore team now demanding they have extensive questions on the spec. But you've had 6 weeks, what have you been up to? I suspect they were cross charged to another project, hence doubling their worth to the consultancy but at great cost to the customer.

    Every day was the same. The expert resource hit a snag, and stop. No intelligent thought processes, common sense or diligence. Would not ask for help, just slip into neutral and wait for the next team meeting.

    The laugh of it was, the whole project was sold on the basis that they'd had 3 days training 4 months earlier on the tool we were using. The onshore resource that sloped in late told me he was going to roll off this project onto the next project as a technical lead after absorbing my knowledge.

    I have nothing but the utmost contempt for these slack-jawed, lazy, cretinous, unduly stubborn and ignorant cretins.

    Balance sheets are lower, costs lower and a wealth of technical debt getting heaped on the companies that are foolish enough to get tangled up with these cowboy consultancies. Just wait for the first IT related **** up that costs a bank a few million quid. It happened at the LME, all over the front pages of the FT.

    Reputation is a fickle thing.
    Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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      #82
      Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
      The laugh of it was, the whole project was sold on the basis that they'd had 3 days training 4 months earlier on the tool we were using.
      The laugh of it was that they were so desperate, they got you to do Oracle development.

      Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
      The onshore resource that sloped in late told me he was going to roll off this project onto the next project as a technical lead after absorbing my knowledge.
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        #83
        Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
        The onshore resource that sloped in late told me he was going to roll off this project onto the next project as a technical lead after absorbing my knowledge.

        :
        So he walked in, picked up the postage stamp, read what was on the back and left ?
        Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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          #84
          Laugh all you want, but the terrifying truth is that we are all being screwed over by abuse of the ICT system. The government and large corporations are in this together, and we are all powerless to do anything about it.

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            #85
            Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
            Laugh all you want, but the terrifying truth is that we are all being screwed over by abuse of the ICT system. The government and large corporations are in this together, and we are all powerless to do anything about it.
            They're laughing at me not the thread.
            Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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              #86
              Originally posted by suityou01 View Post

              6 weeks later we were ready to go, dev environment ready. Off-shore team now demanding they have extensive questions on the spec. But you've had 6 weeks, what have you been up to?
              You shouldn't have given them the opportunity. Wait a few days and then check to see if they have completed the task?
              merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                #87
                Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
                They're laughing at me not the thread.
                Yeah I know we're all laughing at you... but the situation you describe is true and I've seen it for myself.

                I count my blessings that I've had a few years of contracting, but I hate seeing our industry devastated by incompetants. If they were really good at what they did, then all fair and well, but that's not the case: it's purely bribery and cheap imports driven by greed. Quality is now irrelevant.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
                  Yeah I know we're all laughing at you... but the situation you describe is true and I've seen it for myself.

                  I count my blessings that I've had a few years of contracting, but I hate seeing our industry devastated by incompetants. If they were really good at what they did, then all fair and well, but that's not the case: it's purely bribery and cheap imports driven by greed. Quality is now irrelevant.
                  Suity is right. Just a little joke .
                  I totally agree that this ICT system is being abused and that it is quite wrong.
                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
                    Every day was the same. The expert resource hit a snag, and stop. No intelligent thought processes, common sense or diligence. Would not ask for help, just slip into neutral and wait for the next team meeting.

                    To be fair, you were forcing them to use cursors in their programming without you even having a clue about it. You yourself accepted that you knew fu*k all about Orcale but still tried to impose some of your ideas on them.
                    Vote Corbyn ! Save this country !

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by vetran View Post
                      Globalisation is coming, its the duty of governments to make sure the transition is as smooth as possible.
                      As capital will always flow to the lowest unit cost base,and Globalisation will only accelerate this
                      How would you say any Western government could smooth the transition , and transition to what?
                      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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